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Old 07-29-05, 02:42 PM
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Man, nice writeup. Just bought one that was on ebay and I should get it in about a week. This is mainly to replace the stock shifter I have that decided to seperate into it's two respective pieces when the rubber fell apart. I look forward to it, and am also wondering: Do you know what thread diameter and pitch the lower half of the shifter is so I could attempt an adapter for it?

Thanks again for the writeup and pics. Good walkthrough.
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I just bought this one.... I'll see how it goes. Thx for the write up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
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let me know how that one works, you may have to take a small amount of material off the lower pivot to get it to fit into the bore in the shifter as i believe the miata one is slightly larger than the FC.
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hmm, ya know... I don't remember there ever being a bushing in the lower ball part where it meets the tranny.... so I'm prolly gonna have to grind the the ball down some eh? So there's 2 types of shifters out there, 1 with a bushing between the tranny and the shifter and one without a bushing?
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yep, the stock shifter doesn't use a bushing on the ball but most of the miata ones do but some don't.
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Got my shifter, it does in fact have that bottom bushing tho not obvious in the auction. It looks like this is a regular item of the ebay'r I got it from... so have at it guys, and thx for the writeup bud... should get mine on soon... also it is a 2 piece jobby like yours.
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i went to mazda today to pick up the shifter bushing and they told me that the part number has been changed. the new number is 8AF1-17-481...it now comes with the bushing, spring washer, and a paper gasket. it cost me 16.17 with tax and they actually had it in stock.
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my s5 shift **** didnt thread on... im using a 99 civic si **** my friend gave me for free.. lol
Old 08-17-05, 06:42 PM
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if a factory look is wanted,
a 323 or precidia shift **** threads on perfectly as does the miata **** (naturally),
and are super cheap if not free at the wreckers.

still looks original unless you know exactly what to look for.
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Originally Posted by Karack
the S4 **** will not fit, the threads are too small on the new shifter, you will need to find the proper sized adapter or fabricate one.
in most cases no.

i have a Eurostar CF ball **** and i took it from my S4 to my uncles NA6 miata and there was no fittment issues, even though its a aftermarket **** its still threaded for a S4 so meh

BTW the shiftknob looked really sweet being so low on the miata *drool*
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when doing this should the inner boot be replaced(part #17-480A-M513)? or is it not even needed? i know the middle boot (3 pieces) should be.
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I have installed my short shifter it is freakin SWEET!!!!
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Does it still have the same "1 in every 3 shifters will rattle" deal that mazdatrix claims? ...or is this a little different.
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i put mine in about 2 weeks ago, it is great, didnt try "super short" until today. Its just hard to get into 5th and R cause its really stiff but i like it, and i was able to get the upper bushing using the part number in the writeup for 5 bucks. In mine though, the shifter does rattle though, is there a was to use the bushing that comes with the shifter to sit at the bore? cause thats where my rattle seems to be from. Id also like to add that i did not have to sand the 1mm off the bottom, it went right in, not even a tight fit either.
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according to the picture there should be bushings at the bottom ball bore and the stock bushings for the middle ball bore.
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I'm glad to see this thread.

I suspected the Miata kit would work in the 2nd gen tranny.

Thanks.
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I just ordered the same kit off eBay AND a simple black leather shift **** from Grant ...only $27 shipped for black leather shift ****. Beats paying for MOMO's name.
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Originally Posted by SidewaysFC
Does it still have the same "1 in every 3 shifters will rattle" deal that mazdatrix claims? ...or is this a little different.
Yes, mine rattles and its getting very annoying. it sounds really bad at WOT at high rpms. its a really loud buzzing/grinding noise. any ideas on how to fix it? i read about someone shimming rubber in between the inner collar and the outer collar. if i cant fix it, im probably going to put the stock one back in.
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i believe the tapers on the shifters are different for various makes of the shifter, mine does it a little now and then as well, i will be investigating a way to clean up the rattle soon.

my assumption is the tapered edge of the shifter is hitting the inside of the shifter housing, by removing a little material from the edge and cleaning out the housing it should fix the issue.
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^keep us updated if you work on it
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i will also be conducting my own investigation, ill let you guys know if i come up with anything.
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is it normal for the throw to be like 3/8 in or so?
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Is that 3/8" less than normal or 3/8" total shift throw?
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The S5 tranny has a plastic bushing in the socket for the bottom of the lever.
The S4 bottom socket is steel.

I installed mine last night.
The stock lever end ball is .707", the Miata tip bushing measured .730" so I had to sand it down some.
The Miata lever bottom extension was about 1/16" too long, so I had to grind about .60" off the tip, so the pivot ball would seat.

My stock lever's rubber isolator was crumbling so the feel was more spongy than I realized.
Now I know why I kept missing 3rd.
The short throw lever is solid steel.

Holy **** what a difference!
Total throw is not much more than the H graphic on the ****.
Snap into 1st, zoom, bam into 2nd, screech, zoom, bam 3rd, chirp, zoom, beeeeee, 100, lift, YES!

(I see a broken front diff mount in my future.)

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Where exactly did you grind .60" off of?


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