megan racing gauges or prosport?
I have megan racing gauges in my car but I really want amber faced ones to match the stock cluster. Im considering prosport ones. Any one have any info on them?
how do they compare to the megans? thanks |
I have them. They are great. Customer service is also top notch. The Amber matches pretty damn well too
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STRI makes some nice ones.
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I've got some prosports also. They match pretty well and I've had no issues with them.
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Sharingan, it would be nice if you were sharing an (get it?) how to on your cluster.
Thanks, Riz. |
so would prosport probably be the best bang for the buck budget gauges?
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Autometer my friend! I have had some issues with prosport, and so have others.
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Stri
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I can't speak for Prosport's having issues, my water temp gauge has worked fine. Once my rebuild is done I'll be adding an oil temp that has been on my shelf for some time as well as an oil pressure.
I know they won some awards at this years SEMA for their newest line of gauges. I don't think those have been released to consumers yet, but I'm betting they have info on their Facebook. |
Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10389566)
The Amber matches pretty damn well too
Ive owned prosport, autometer, and AEM gauges. They all worked fine for me. |
Originally Posted by Tofuman FC3S
(Post 10390736)
Sharingan, it would be nice if you were sharing an (get it?) how to on your cluster.
Thanks, Riz.
Originally Posted by Hypertek
(Post 10390739)
so would prosport probably be the best bang for the buck budget gauges?
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Ditto on the writeup for your cluster request.
I know the stock oil pressure and water temp gauges are crap, but it would also look like crap to have a superfluous gauge cluster next to my radio or sumthin'. I'd be stoked to have a setup that looked like yours. Do these gauges run off the stock senders/sensors? what sizes? where do I buy them? |
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Both gauges are crap. I have had many customer complaining about the gauge not being accurate. Have you guys checked out www.speedhut.com gauges. Thats what we are using know.
Thanks Robert |
The megans I have never used. The prosport I have and am happy with it, the only thing is for the boost/vac gauges the sending units like to shit out early(just the boost/vac). Myself and 3 of my friends with them have all had the same issue with that.
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i had the megan ones before i switched to prosport. i like the prosport much more. the wiring is alot easier. cant really say much on the accuracy of them because my car isnt running rite now but when it was i did notice the output from the ecu was a lil different than what was appearing on the gauge.
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Originally Posted by fc3s91
(Post 10393643)
Both gauges are crap. I have had many customer complaining about the gauge not being accurate. Have you guys checked out www.speedhut.com gauges. Thats what we are using know.
Thanks Robert
Originally Posted by SpikeDerailed
(Post 10393675)
The megans I have never used. The prosport I have and am happy with it, the only thing is for the boost/vac gauges the sending units like to shit out early(just the boost/vac). Myself and 3 of my friends with them have all had the same issue with that.
Originally Posted by rx7 FC TII
(Post 10394561)
i had the megan ones before i switched to prosport. i like the prosport much more. the wiring is alot easier. cant really say much on the accuracy of them because my car isnt running rite now but when it was i did notice the output from the ecu was a lil different than what was appearing on the gauge.
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So what size do I get to fit the stock cluster? The warning feature of the premiums look awesome, but could I screw it into my s5 na cluster?
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Originally Posted by BomberMan
(Post 10395702)
So what size do I get to fit the stock cluster? The warning feature of the premiums look awesome, but could I screw it into my s5 na cluster?
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10395294)
To say "Prosport gauge" isn't really definitive. There are significant differences between the base gauges and the premium series, especially in the senders. I have had my premium series boost/vac gauge for almost 3 years and the sender is bolted to the firewall above the turbo (yea...I know) and it still works fine. I did have some issues w/ accuracy but that turned out to be an issue with the vac source.
http://prosportgauges.com/amber-whit...ost-gauge.aspx |
I do like Sharingan's gauge setup. I've considered doing the same type of thing. I originally mounted my water temp gauge under my headunit. I was intending to put my oil temp and pressure gauges in the same adapter.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2780486_n.jpg What I didn't like about that location was it was too low. I turned the temp gauge sideways so I could see the needle and temps easier once the engine warmed up. Before I blew the front rotor and my rebuild started, I was going to fab up a bracket to swap the headunit to the lower DIN and the gauges above the headunit. I may take the adapter and modify it so the gauges are angled up more. But I own a vert so when the top is down that might result in glare. I like Sharingan's cause if the gauges aren't in a heads-up location I'm not seeing them as often or as easily as I'd like. I've got my boost gauge on the A pillar. I've got a spare 2 gauge pod for the A pillar. I've considered dropping the oil temp gauge and mounting 3 gauges on the A pillar (boost, water temp, oil pressure). All that being said. Sharingan how'd you mount those gauges? Are they inside the clear cover? I've got a spare cluster I could tear apart to replicate what you did. |
Let us know if you have any specific questions, we have been on the board since 2006 helping the Mazda community and since then we have had lots of changes and upgrades. Mainly with senders and movements. I agree, that many years ago we did not have the best quality sender but over time ALL of our senders have changed/upgraded to be more stout and accurate.
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I do have a question. Are there any other sender options for the 45mm temp gauge? The one included with the gauge is too big to fit the stock rx-7 location in the rear iron.
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10397961)
I do have a question. Are there any other sender options for the 45mm temp gauge? The one included with the gauge is too big to fit the stock rx-7 location in the rear iron.
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10397961)
I do have a question. Are there any other sender options for the 45mm temp gauge? The one included with the gauge is too big to fit the stock rx-7 location in the rear iron.
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I've had 4 premium prosport gauges for about 3 years now. The only issue I had was my boost gauge read -2/3 psi in the off position with or without power. Prosport customer service explained how to adjust to zero position by adjusting a screw at the back. So far so good for me!
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Is there any decent option to mount a single gauge on an S5?
The autometer pod does not work because of the auto seat belts and I don't want to block the idiot light. Does anyone still made a pre fabbed center console or any other FC specific mount? |
Originally Posted by just startn
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Were u going into the rear iron at? cant picture it in my head
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10398145)
In the stock location....under the oil filter pedestal.
i have not yet wired it in, an ex-rotary mechanic (puerto rican and is building a drag rx3) said it would be okay to install the gauge in the rubber coolant line going to the cabin. just gotta find the right fittings at home depot. |
I believe its the straight thread (S4). I just broke down an S5 n/a so I'll check that sensor. Either way the Prosport sensor is too large to fit in the hole much less screw in.
Currently I have the sensor in the coolant drain plug but the readings aren't accurate...may have something to do w/ the teflon tape on the sender....dunno. |
Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10398195)
I believe its the straight thread (S4). I just broke down an S5 n/a so I'll check that sensor. Either way the Prosport sensor is too large to fit in the hole much less screw in.
Currently I have the sensor in the coolant drain plug but the readings aren't accurate...may have something to do w/ the teflon tape on the sender....dunno. Cant wire it to the stock sensor? |
yeah i have the same problem. the probe is too large in diameter to even get down into the hole. ugh it sucks!
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10397961)
I do have a question. Are there any other sender options for the 45mm temp gauge? The one included with the gauge is too big to fit the stock rx-7 location in the rear iron.
I recommend using our aluminum radiator hose adaptors. http://prosportgauges.com/images/pro...ftlights5c.jpg |
the problem with using this adapter is that if the thermostat is stuck closed we would not know.
what size is the piece? i may have a second location to stick it. (heater hose going into the cabin) |
drill and tap your waterpump housing
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
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drill and tap your waterpump housing
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Originally Posted by driftxsequence
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what size is the piece? Also have a small T- fitting for Fuel line that servers the same purpose. http://prosportgauges.com/images/pro...%20fitting.jpg |
Here's how I did my prosport water temp sender/probe. it's on a S5 turbo swapped vert. I'm running no emissions so I had a machine shop tap through the air pump bracket thread. I had them take some material off cause the probe didn't go very deep. I was concerned it wouldn't get good contact with the coolant.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3706208_n.jpg Here is before I had material taken off. It was probably deep enough but at the time the car was a daily driver and while I had the pump off I wanted to make sure I did the job right. http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7156973_n.jpg Here it is after and I thought the machine shop took too much off so I had a washer or two to back it up a little bit. http://l19.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hpho..._6003974_n.jpg |
Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10398195)
I believe its the straight thread (S4). I just broke down an S5 n/a so I'll check that sensor. Either way the Prosport sensor is too large to fit in the hole much less screw in.
Currently I have the sensor in the coolant drain plug but the readings aren't accurate...may have something to do w/ the teflon tape on the sender....dunno. I'm confused on which OEM sensor you're talking about? The sensor on my rear iron matches threads with my Prosport water temp sensor/sender/probe. I have a S5 and am planning to mod up an electric fan control from this thread. I was able to screw in my Prosport sender/sensor/probe in my rear iron. https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ic+fan+control I'm planning to order the radiator hose adapter from Prosport and use that to house my OEM thermosensor that will control my electric fan.
Originally Posted by driftxsequence
(Post 10398786)
yeah i have the same problem. the probe is too large in diameter to even get down into the hole. ugh it sucks!
Originally Posted by prosport Gauges
(Post 10398815)
By "too big" I am assuming you mean the thread pitch as the sender is only 1".
I recommend using our aluminum radiator hose adaptors. http://prosportgauges.com/images/pro...ftlights5c.jpg One question though, does the amber illumination of your Performance, Premium, and Halo series all match? I've got Performance water and oil temp gauges. I'd like to eventually upgrade to either Premium or Halo. What with the costs of putting the engine back together I'm already spending enough on the car for now. Swapping my temp gauges will be a little later. |
http://mazdatrix.com/86-92Electrical-Engine.htm
i have the 81-88 straight thread. i can take a picture of the prosport one next to mine to show you the difference if you'd really like... |
Originally Posted by driftxsequence
(Post 10399831)
http://mazdatrix.com/86-92Electrical-Engine.htm
i have the 81-88 straight thread. i can take a picture of the prosport one next to mine to show you the difference if you'd really like... |
Exactly! apparently the S4 sensor is like 2.5/16" or some other form of gayness...
I'm not going to pull my waterpump just to install a gauge sender, guess I'll just deal with the inaccurate readings in the drain plug location and keep the Palm pilot close until I have a good reason to pull the w/p |
Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10400132)
Exactly! apparently the S4 sensor is like 2.5/16" or some other form of gayness...
I'm not going to pull my waterpump just to install a gauge sender, guess I'll just deal with the inaccurate readings in the drain plug location and keep the Palm pilot close until I have a good reason to pull the w/p |
Originally Posted by JustJeff
(Post 10399520)
One question though, does the amber illumination of your Performance, Premium, and Halo series all match? .
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10400132)
Exactly! apparently the S4 sensor is like 2.5/16" or some other form of gayness...
I'm not going to pull my waterpump just to install a gauge sender, guess I'll just deal with the inaccurate readings in the drain plug location and keep the Palm pilot close until I have a good reason to pull the w/p |
In the drain plug I see about 20* below actual (Rtek) once it gets warmed up. While its warming up however it could be off by as much as 40-50*. Now I did wrap the sender w/ teflon tape, if it needs to ground through the body of the senso this might explain the inacuracy, but I don't think it would fit snuggly w/o the tape.
Interestingly when I was on the interstate yesterday the gauge started reading accurately (as opposed to -20*) but it was only for brief periods, and it eventually went back to its old ways. Perhaps the teflon is wearing away? |
Are you saying the threads are not matched so the teflon tape was keeping it tight?
It could be that with the teflon tape it is not being grounded properly. maybe the person from prosport can chime in on that note. |
The temp sender has i'ts own ground (two wire coming out of it) one is signal and one (Black) is ground.
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Originally Posted by sharingan 19
(Post 10389665)
Did you simply remove the bulbs behind the gauges you covered and then mounted the Prosports over the OEM gauges and put the clear cover back on? I have a S5 and would like to keep my Volt gauge visible as I've got a pretty big stereo system and modified my factory wiring and alternator. |
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