mazdaspeed7

is awesome!!!! I changed my oil today, and used a quart of MMO in the oil. My engine used to be really rough, it would vibrate the whole car, etc. After my oil change with the MMO today, my engine was silky smooth. It also had a little more power, especially at low rpms, and revved faster. Also a nice improvement around/above redline, more power, no hesitation anymore, and pulled much harder from redline to the rev limiter than before. And all this is on an engine with only 9K miles. Im sure it would help older ones even more. I would recommend this for everyone at their next oil change.

TristanTII

I've heard of using MMO instead of ATF for the ATF trick (you know what I mean) that it burns clean, but doesn't work as well.

I guess using some in the oil would make sense, and I might try it out seeing as I'm due for a change pretty soon

HOZZMANRX7

iTrader: (43)

Where do you get this stuff?

I've read so many positive posts on this, I wonder if it will help me with my receding hairline too.

mazdaspeed7

I got mine from Discount Auto Parts. Most of the auto parts stores carry it. Its with the fuel injector cleaner and that stuff.

MMO is cool, but this stuff has to be the coolest thing every made. I am going to get some after Christmas for my car.

Xentrix

I tried it on my FC last oil change and it seemed to drop power. I ended up doing the atf trick and that helped boost it past what my car was pulling before i put marvel in.

Erik

glad it runs better man

but as for using it instead of ATF...i remember Kurgan saying something that he used it and it sucked as a detergant substituting for ATF

Icemark

in the oil???

MMO is for mixing with Gas... Didn't you read the side panel... its to be used as Pre-mix.

What possible advantage can it be by mixing into your oil, other than changing the viscosity of the oil?

All you did was change the 20W50 in your car to a 30W.

I would be very worried about increased seal wear as well as other issues, like the oil pump cavating.

supergoat

Icemark, they also make a oil additive. I use it and it works great. I have not tried the gas additive yet though.

Icemark

HMMM, I have only seen/used the snake oil in the metal quart red and black can. Now they have an oil additive??? I guess my local Kragen is behind the times again.

2kwik4u

I bought my car after it had been sitting still for nearly two years (not even started) and barely driven since '95 (last oil change was in '95 with 99,230 miles, I bought it 5 weeks ago with 100,150 miles ) car kinda smoked a little. Put MMO in the tank and have not seen ANY smoke at all from the pipes!! I will prolly be doing the ATF trick soon to see what kind of more power I can get from it!!

MMO RULES!!!!

turboren

I think MMO is like ATF with diesel fuel mixed in or something similar to that. Both are excellent solvent-type cleaners for engine internals.

As far as it being a problem for thinning out your oil, I don't really think that's nuch of an issue. I knew a guy with one of those Formula-type cars (looks kinda like a Porsche 917) with a PP 13B, and he said he ran SAE 30 all the time. I personally used 10w/40 in Charleston, but that wouldn't work well up here in the dead of winter. Plus thicker oil than necessary just robs power and increases strain on the oil pump. As long as you've got good flow and pressure, you should be ok.

Ren

tesla042

Actually, it says it can be mixed in the crankcase or the gas tank...

And the advantage is that it can dissolve all the gunk around your oiling system.. The next oil change will prolly have some naaaasty stuff coming out of his car.

-Tesla

iluvrx7z

I have used it a few times in my 7. It DOES say in the back that you can also use in the crankcase oil or in the gas tank. Or both for that matter. What I have noticed after using it is not more power but the car rides smoother. Just my .02

Dan

tweaked

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I love Marvel!!! I used to use it in the motorcycle I used to have. I started using it when I had just overhauled the motor. I tore the top end down again after about 2000 race and street miles. no carbon. all of the brass fitinggs in the carbs were as clean as new ones and the best part is the rings and cylinder walls showed very very little wear. It was like the motor wasn't even broken in yet. I use it in the FC too after that

mazdaspeed7

Did anyone even click on the link I posted? Check it out, its definately worth the effort.

TristanTII

I clicked on the link, and ended up being pretty impressed, I'll probably buy one of the Engine only treatments for my next oil change.

Although it does seem as if I'm using too many different additives.

I currently use the Petitt racing pre mix in my gas. I normally use a fuel system clean at oil changes. Redline watter wetter in my Rad. And I think I'm going ot try out a quart of MMO in my next oil change.

things may be getting a little out of control.

RX-7Impreza

I'm not saying that the additive on the site you posted wont work, but i have heard some gruesome stories about teflon mishaps and other additive mistakes.

Make sure that the stuff will work on rotary engines before you use it. since the engine puts the oil into the combustion chamber itself, it can cause problems

Justin

mazdaspeed7

As fas as I know, that stuff does not contail teflon, but Im going to email them to be sure.

Zed

Every 5th tank of gas the Rex gets two "glugs" in the oil filler and the rest in the tank. The Bonnie gets a bottle in the tank about every 10 fillups.

God only knows what's in the stuff, but I swear everything runs better with it.

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I've brought two chainsaws and a disel tractor back to life with this stuff - add it to the fuel (and/or a shot to the engine oil - just like tequila to a person), let it sit a day and things work.
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Agent_D

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Has anyone tried Zmax, that stuff looks like it would do wonders on the inside of a rotary, has Linkite in it

www.zmax.com

im gonna try some sooner or later when i get some extra money, i think it would work awesome. but until then ill go try some MMO this week

Icemark

It would be intresting to see some dyno numbers on the MMO usage.

As the majority of the people that used Slick50 claimed HP increase as well, but all the true independent studies showed that it was no different than adding a 1/2 Qt of synthetic to a engine, and lasted about as long... all the way up to the next oil change.

People tend to want to believe that adding something special will give them better milage and more HP.

And I still would like to see what happens to the oil with it mixed in. Last thing you need is the oil foaming in the pan or as I mentioned earlier Viscosity change.

Agent_D

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racing beat swears by royal purple and they say dyno tests show it increased HP, i dont know, slick 50 has teflon and can ruin any engine, will leave all kinds of stuff in the engine, zmax shows promise on removing carbon deposits and keeping the metal in good shape, prolong shows good on keeping stuff lubricated good, MMO i have no clue, never used it, but i will friday, and the microlon that mazdaspeed7 was talking about looks damn good too.

smityjr

well ill put it like this... dont believe everything that u read in advertisements... there is always a gimmick to the sale.... and as we all know if it made that big of a difference the oil companies would have bought them out so that we could keep some other folks in business.. i.e. oil change shops engine mechanics. and the works. i would have to believe someone that can prove to me that they used a product and had very good success with it. from a personal experience level. but dont get me wrong im not saying that it doesnt help in wear and tear. sometimes its just too good to be true..lol

iluvrx7z

i am no expert in this area at all...but i do have personal experiance. i saw first hand my neighbor's concord undergo the zmax treatment and it definitely made an improvement. its not my car and i don't ever really ride in it but i remember it running the day before the zmax, rough as usual, and when it was started up after it was a LOT smoother and has stayed that way since. i am not saying its safe on a rotary or it has special magical effects...just the results i have seen on one car. again just my .02

Dan

turboren

Use common sense when looking at additives. Companies spend minimal amounts of money on these things in relation to their HUGE profit margins. They know their products will sell, especially if they can semi-substantiate some hokey claim of increased power, engine life, and/or fuel economy. This happens because, in general, the motoring public will not spend the time and/or money (dyno tests, etc) to find out if the products really live up to their lofty claims.

Slick 50/Quaker State, as well as several additive companies, have been under investigation by the Federal Trade Commision for making false claims. Some have been either forced to stop selling their products, or change their advertisement.

There are products that have been independently tested (not by some company hired by the manufacturer, but independent shops with dynos, etc.) and proven to work. Most are just snake oil. There are no magic potions, and no free rides. The cheapest proven way to improve your vehicle's performance and longevity is regular maintenance.

Remember the golden rule of marketing: A fool and his money...

Ren