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Cybaster 06-17-04 01:09 AM

Making Jspec FTPs, the cheap way
 
I was wondering if there is a way to "make" Jspec FTP lights. Anyone have any pictures or ideas on how to do it?

i was thinking about stripping the Parking Lamp wires and connecting driving lamps to make them shine thru the FTPs

But i was wondering if there was a way to "CLEANLY" mod the FTPs so that the lights sit tightly behind them and they look cool ^_^

Anyone have any ideas?

I've look through the form, I saw the day time headlight conversion, but wouldn't routing the parking lamp wires be much simpler?

neofreak 06-17-04 01:17 AM

Just because your FTP lenses light up doesn't mean they look like the JDM FTP lenses.

AcidShock 06-17-04 01:20 AM

I honestly do not see the purpose for these other than aesthetics. I mean is it really that important for your car to have light up FTP lenses? Or is just that you want your car to look like you got it imported from Japan? :p:

Cybaster 06-17-04 01:22 AM

i mean, during the day, it's not like people can REALLY see u flash your high beams..... rather than having 2 useless pieces of plastic there.... why not make them "LOOK" useful (note: i put LOOK in quotes) ^_^

J-Rat 06-17-04 03:38 AM

Drill a hole in the back.. Toss a light in..

JDM TYTE!

NZConvertible 06-17-04 05:44 AM


Originally posted by Cybaster
i mean, during the day, it's not like people can REALLY see u flash your high beams...
People can see mine just fine.

Tofuball 06-17-04 06:10 AM

People can see mine too.

People may choose to ignore them (like turn signals) but hey, thats what the car is biult to deal with.

SureShot 06-17-04 06:20 AM

Daytime running lights are the way to go
 
Just wire the fogs as DRL - (see avatar)

I have seen several drivers (and 1 deer) start to pull out in my path then stop when they see the 55 watt running lights.

Maxthe7man 06-17-04 07:55 AM

Or buy my JDM FtP's that I have...

Cybaster 06-17-04 08:35 AM

Well, i don't plan to spend 160 on Jspec FTPs. heck, i might just take them out and make u HOLES! =P

Ryde _Or_Die 06-17-04 09:11 AM

Ya I always planned on doing the same thing. Possibly even modding them enough to use them as headlights if I wanted. How hard is it to get the FTPs apart cleanly?

jon88se 06-17-04 09:13 AM

The pattern on the outside of the JDM FTP's is also way different than the US versions. I got mine for about $75 bucks shipped and they came nicely wrapped in Mazda boxes (not knock offs hehe).

Rxmfn7 06-17-04 09:15 AM


Originally posted by Cybaster
i mean, during the day, it's not like people can REALLY see u flash your high beams..... rather than having 2 useless pieces of plastic there.... why not make them "LOOK" useful (note: i put LOOK in quotes) ^_^
So...you dont think people can see you flashing your 100W high beams, but you think they will see a little 5W bulb that is behind them? The J-spec FTPs seem worthless to me. They are not flass-to-pass anymore, just more of a running light.

jon88se 06-17-04 09:28 AM

Exactly...at dusk they happen to look pretty cool with the dims on. I took out the standard wedge bulb from the japanses FTP's and tossed in a raybrig yellow wedge bulb. At dusk/night they look really nice with my HID's. The standard bulb color just looked wrong and I didn't wany anything "blue" hehe The yellow almost gives that Lexus look at night.

Aaron Cake 06-17-04 09:56 AM

Another way: http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/lights.htm

Cybaster 06-17-04 11:14 AM


Originally posted by jon88se
Exactly...at dusk they happen to look pretty cool with the dims on. I took out the standard wedge bulb from the japanses FTP's and tossed in a raybrig yellow wedge bulb. At dusk/night they look really nice with my HID's. The standard bulb color just looked wrong and I didn't wany anything "blue" hehe The yellow almost gives that Lexus look at night.

Yeah! Exactly! just for that 30 minutes at Dusk.......
but for that 30 minutes each day, i don't think i want to spend over 100 dollars on a pair of lights......
Like me, living in the Bay Area, where everyone on the freeway have retarded ricer mobiles..... when you have a RX-7, that just shuts them up.... so making something custom is always a good thing =)

u know, when those Integra GSR's think they can pass u........ then u beat them "at their own game" boy do they look like idiots...... ^_^ (i know, i think everyone on this forum SHOULD be elitists=)

Rxmfn7 06-17-04 11:28 AM

Cyblaster:

Text signatures can have 10 lines max, can you please revise yours. You have like 25.

Cybaster 06-17-04 11:43 AM

^_^ sorry =)
its fixed now

Rxmfn7 06-17-04 11:44 AM

I guess you can't count...but its better than before :p:

Cybaster 06-17-04 11:48 AM

There =P

1,2,4,6,5,8,

yeah yeah =P

i passed pre-school! Honest! ^_^

fixed it.... sheesh...

Rxmfn7 06-17-04 11:49 AM

Thank you ;)

jon88se 06-17-04 11:52 AM


Originally posted by Cybaster
Yeah! Exactly! just for that 30 minutes at Dusk.......
but for that 30 minutes each day, i don't think i want to spend over 100 dollars on a pair of lights......
Like me, living in the Bay Area, where everyone on the freeway have retarded ricer mobiles..... when you have a RX-7, that just shuts them up.... so making something custom is always a good thing =)

u know, when those Integra GSR's think they can pass u........ then u beat them "at their own game" boy do they look like idiots...... ^_^ (i know, i think everyone on this forum SHOULD be elitists=)

Like I said, I got mine for $75.00 and to me it was a great buy...my original FTP's were fogged up and faded and the car was going to the body shop for a front lip and sideskirts plus re-spraying the S5 nose. So, rather than look for some used FTP's these brand spankin new ones fit the bill, plus they had the lights :)

86GXL 06-17-04 01:40 PM

I'm using a 18 watt bulb so its actualy much much brighter than the 5 watt ... not good enough for Daytime lights but they look cool at night.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...08_72_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...08_81_full.jpg

Ryde _Or_Die 06-17-04 08:23 PM


Originally posted by 86GXL
I'm using a 18 watt bulb so its actualy much much brighter than the 5 watt ... not good enough for Daytime lights but they look cool at night.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...08_72_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...08_81_full.jpg


What kind of bulb is that? I think I'd use 2 bulbs in each or something. Does the light come through very well or no? Like can it light the road up at all?

VietFC 06-17-04 08:47 PM

if you can see the bulb like that... the light is going through just fine. But light up the road??? that's a big hell no. there's no way a lil 5watt bulb like that can light up anything more than 1ft away from the car

tie pilot 06-17-04 10:17 PM


Originally posted by Aaron Cake
Another way: http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/lights.htm
that's a nice plan, but it includes adding a switch to the car, ruining the OEM look = )

why not find the wire that is sent from the headlight switch which raises the lamp housings and just cut it? then the headlight switch would turn the lamps on and off, and the knob above it would be used to raise and lower the housings.

NZConvertible 06-18-04 01:18 AM


Originally posted by Rxmfn7
The J-spec FTPs seem worthless to me. They are not flass-to-pass anymore, just more of a running light.
You're right. Despite what some people think, they're not city lights or daytime running lights or anything like that, they're simply front marker lights. US cars have them integrated into the indicators instead.

To me the ability to flash your high-beams is far more important that having a pair of basically decorative lights instead. Personally I don't even like the JDM "FTP" lights, as they have a very weak, diffused look, even with a brighter bulb.


Originally posted by tie pilot
that's a nice plan, but it includes adding a switch to the car, ruining the OEM look
It's very easy to hide a switch, but I wouldn't even bother with one. As suggested, use an ignition switched relay to turn the headlights on for use as DRL's. The headlight switch is then used to raise them at night and turn on the taillights.

why not find the wire that is sent from the headlight switch which raises the lamp housings and just cut it? then the headlight switch would turn the lamps on and off, and the knob above it would be used to raise and lower the housings.
Because that's twice an many actions as there needs to be, and besides, cutting the wire would also diasble that switch. Aaron's method (with a relay) is far more elegant.

RyoFC3S 06-18-04 01:34 AM

I did a pretty sweet FTP light project. I figured no one cared about it, and I got about half way through a write-up when I quit.

If anyone wants me to finish the writeup, let me know:

http://www.smempire.org/staff/ryosuke/ftp_light1.jpg

http://www.smempire.org/staff/ryosuke/ftp_light2.jpg

They look good, and they filled in the dark spot between the headlights and fog lights. :)

-Andrew
90 TII

1979_Rx-7 06-18-04 01:45 AM

Yeah i did the same thing it looks like was done above... using a set of fog lights perchased from walmart with surprising results... I of course used a factory switch though...

VietFC 06-18-04 03:13 AM


Originally posted by RyoFC3S
I did a pretty sweet FTP light project. I figured no one cared about it, and I got about half way through a write-up when I quit.

If anyone wants me to finish the writeup, let me know:

http://www.smempire.org/staff/ryosuke/ftp_light1.jpg

http://www.smempire.org/staff/ryosuke/ftp_light2.jpg

They look good, and they filled in the dark spot between the headlights and fog lights. :)

-Andrew
90 TII

I would like to you finish it... if it's not too much trouble. ^_^

86GXL 06-18-04 07:50 PM

its a 921 style 18watt bulb.. lights up a little... but not enough to light up the road

Psygnosis7 06-18-04 08:54 PM


Originally posted by VietFC
I would like to you finish it... if it's not too much trouble. ^_^
Yes please do, those look pretty good :D How bout some more pics?

Travelintrevor 06-19-04 06:25 PM

man...i will post some pics tomorrow on this thread and start a newone...a real easy project with the FTP's and looks sweet

SirRX7 06-19-04 06:44 PM

RyoFC3S, those look great!! Can you please post a pic of the FTPs turned on but with the headlights off? I'd like to see how bright they are without the headlights.

RyoFC3S 06-20-04 02:38 AM

My digital camera sucks.. It doesen't show how much light they actually put out. I'd say they're about as bright as the fog lights- if your headlights weren't working i'm sure they would work as an emergency solution.

Picture. Excuse the size.

I'll try to get better pictures later.

-Andrew
90 TII

boba_buster57 06-20-04 03:38 PM

I'd like a writeup!

86GXL 06-24-04 11:45 AM

Daytime pics? i'd like to see how they look inside there without the light on

Madrx7racer 06-24-04 01:22 PM

I was thinkg about doing that.....but I wanted yo use some fog lights.....I think it would get too hot in there and melt something tho.

NA2TurboProject 06-24-04 01:50 PM

A kewl trick to get your lights clear again. Take some slightly abbrasive metal polish and a die grinder and polish the outside lenses. Just be carful not to burn them.

RyoFC3S 06-24-04 05:50 PM

I just finished the writeup. I just need to do a couple of things to get it working right, but expect it by tonight or tomorrow morning. :)

Oh yea, this is for that light comparison you were asking for:

http://www.smempire.org/staff/ryosuke/light.jpg

:D

-Andrew
90 TII

TwEaK 06-24-04 07:22 PM

would love a write up i like the way they look and wouldnt mind doing that to my TII....
TwEaK

fstrnyou 06-24-04 08:04 PM

yeah, i just wired in a momentary switch in the headlight-up wire so i can turn my lights on without them going up. and whenever i want them up, just hold the button till they're all the way up. or, if you like the sleepy eye look, hold the momentary switch until they are where you want them. very simple. and the switch is located at the inside top left of the instrument cluster housing. hardly visible.

87base RX-7 06-24-04 08:30 PM

-fstrnou- wait exactly where did u wire this switch in at? cause that sounds like what id like too cause of the sleepy eyed option thanks

RyoFC3S 06-25-04 02:21 AM

Alright, its totally done. Now, I just need someone to host it, because the site I normally use to host things won't allow it.

Anyone want to host it?

-Andrew
90 TII

VietFC 06-25-04 02:32 AM

how large is it? i can probably host it.

RyoFC3S 06-25-04 02:57 AM

3.5MB :o: (Lots of pictures)

-Andrew
90 TII

VietFC 06-25-04 03:02 AM

i think i have just enough webspace. how would we go about doing this?

RyoFC3S 06-25-04 04:10 AM

I can send you the file via email, I think. Message me on AIM or MSN if you can. RedSunID for AIM and RedSunID@hotmail.com for MSN. I won't be on until tomorrow afternoon, though.

-Andrew

RyoFC3S 06-25-04 04:47 PM

POSTED! :D

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=321142

-Andrew
90 TII

fstrnyou 06-25-04 07:13 PM


Originally posted by 87base RX-7
-fstrnou- wait exactly where did u wire this switch in at? cause that sounds like what id like too cause of the sleepy eyed option thanks
i think you wire that switch to the red/blue stripe wire coming from headlight controller switch. i can't remember. check the FSM wiring diagrams.


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