I spent a few hours redoing this, as I was getting a lot of hits on it, but the original was lost.  It took me a while to figure out it's final configuration, but I think it came out alright - it was hard to incorporate all the info in the best format possible without causing too much confusion.

http://fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/TURBO/fullturbo.htm

ALL COMMENTS WELCOME - even bad ones.

I know there are a lot of you running full turbo upgrades, and any feedback is welcome.


-Ted

 

NOICE! Thats a good read man.

 

looks like good info and organized too, but i don't have time to read it all while on the forums and writing a paper due in an hour and a half :p

 

Great write-up. Thats exactly what "boost nOObs" like me need.

Turbo specifications, considering every manufacturer has their own "code" for naming each model. Like a T04 Garrett is the same as a Txx in turbonetics...its all confusing!

Ted - perhaps you can expand on what each component of a turbo means and how to interpret it. I.E. q trim, p trim, o trim, what the hot and cold side decimal number means and how to use it as a basisi for comparison among diferent models, etc...

 

I will try and incorporate charts for turbo wheel specs that should make comparing different wheels a little easier.

I'm trying to work in turbine A/R sizing, as this is a big mystery for a lot of people.


-Ted

 

Ted,

Looks good. Pictures of each product shown standalone & installed would be nice if you can get them.

Seeing some of the custom exhaust manifolds installed on the engine would help newbs understand as well.

 

You might want to include mention of the "ebay special" FD manifolds. They offer a lot of bang for the buck for the BEGINNING of a custom manifold

 

If anyone has any turbos that I'm missing, please drop me a note!

I'm trying to cover as many of the turbos as possible in that one page.



-Ted

 

If you're talking about those OBX SS ones, I'm holding out until we get a local FD running on it.  I've seen those things up-close and personal, and it scares me.


-Ted

 

Was going to post that you should include sizing definitions/options/trim wheel definitions...

 

GREAT WRITEUP... you advised to have good rubber at the end... good advice. What about good stoppers ?

 

qood brakes should be considered WAY before u`ll start messing with turbo at all

 

Looks good Ted. I will LOVE to direct people to your page so I can quite answering questions over and over and over again! lol

A few things I would try to work in:

As someone mentioned the turbin wheel trim differences especially O, P, Q and GTQ. Heck, maybe even the definition of "trim" as a ratio of exducer/inducer sizes.

I like to refer to this site:
http://www.moreboost.org/turbos.htm
as it has TONS of different turbos listed with their respective turbine and compressor wheel dimensions... it's gives a good relative size comparison between the turbos.

I would also make mention of the divded vs non-divided manifold issue and tunned equal length vs not as well. Rice Racing had some really good posts on this which I can try to dig up if you might be interested in some of the info.

I'd be happy to help write somestuff up... and then you could edit it rather than having to generate everything on your own.

Good work!

-Chris

One last thing... a section on reading a compressor map would be good as well, so people can understand why they are buying a particular turbo, and not just "Because _______ said so".

 

Theres definately alot of good information there. My experiences with turbos are very little. My Starion has one and my RX-7 has one.
I understand some basic concepts being different turbines will push more CFM at different rates regardless of the PSI being shown... Which is what makes a 14a different then a 16g (I think some were called.)
I really don't know if any turbo upgrade would benefit me in anyway on my car, being stock setup.
Lets say my turbo were to go bad, would I benefit at all to upgrade to one of these turbo's and just not run any boost above stock. Until I have supporting mods etc. Or would it be better to find a junkyard special replacement. Would any of these replacement be direct bolt up, including cooler lines etc. (I read a little bit on there but it mostly pertained to useing an FD kit on an FC I beleive..)

One of these kits mentioned it had an "Internal waste gate" would that mean if I bought that kit I wouldn't need to port the waste gate to keep boost creep from happening? Or does it mean it uses the waste gate still on the car? (Sorry if im sounding really dumb on the subject... I don't know how dumafied you want your page to be. )

Definately alot of good information on that page and well the rest of the fc3spro page as well. I just figured id mention what I might be looking for...

 

Awesome work as usual Ted.

 

HKS turbo info added...


-Ted

 

You should include how to calculate if the turbo is right for your engine and what all the detailed specs mean and how it affects the turbo. And for each turbo you should try to find out generally what rpm it makes full boost at, get some compressor maps for the turbos, etc.. all that good stuff...

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/wol...TCATOLOGUE.pdf

http://mr2info.home.comcast.net/sizing.htm

http://64.225.76.178/catalog/compmaps/fig1.html

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=167166

http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/

It seems that when calculating turbo size using the compressor map it works to consider the rotary as a 3.9 liter rather than 1.3. Like the GT35R is made for 3.0-4.5 liters..

 

Ted excellent job well done. I would like to know what is the difference between a divided, and undivided Turbo manifold. And as far as performance is concerned which is better, and why ?

 

what about borg warner stuff?