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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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Let the fun begin... Race car (re)build

Hey everyone, first off please keep in mind I'm not an ESPN commentator and I am terrible at narration, so you'll have to bear with me.

The car was run in ITS then ST3 last year and we are changing over to ST2/E Production... New motor, fresh paint, and a general rebuild. Heres a few pictures of what the car looked like last year:





And me enjoying a couple laps at Summit Point:


The teardown has already happened. Sorry, school/work/girlfriend got in the way of uploading/taking more pictures. My main job is bodywork along with mechanical, and my dad/the car owner are mainly in charge of mechanical/setup. I'll be posting pictures in order as they happened, bringing you up to date on progress.

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Pics of the body:






It ended up on its roof last year (or was it two years ago?) on the front strech at Summit Point, put into the tire barriers at Watkins Glen by a student driver, so I have my work cut out for me as far as body work... Paint design is still being decided upon, but the dark blue is going to stay; were just not sure what kind of design to do yet.

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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Drivers side fender...




Blehhh LOTS of plastic here...




About 8 hours of hammer/dolly work, here we go...


Plastic/sanded:


Primered up:


Its a little better...

Passanger side fender wasn't near as bad, but it wasn't perfect, so lets fast forward through it...



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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Will be watching this one! I'm in the process of making mine track worthy. Not this hardcore/official, but made for the track none the less.

Looking forward to it.
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Quarter panels... I knew it would be ALOT of work, but oh well. Boy, was I in for a surprise...

HMMM cutting corners, anyone?


About 3 hours of grinding in 30* weather later...




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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Looks awesome! I love the cage and the simplicity of the carb setup. But please dont paint it blue and yellow again. Lol
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:24 AM
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Doors, anyone?

Drivers:



Just a little tug is all she needed...


And if you do it right, this is how they SHOULD come off:





Thin-ish coat of plastic:


I have the drivers door sanded down and the rest of the small spots filled, but I don't have any pictures of it. It will seem like I bounce around between what I'm working on because the car is in my garage, and the doors/fenders were done at school.

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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by beefhole
Will be watching this one! I'm in the process of making mine track worthy. Not this hardcore/official, but made for the track none the less.

Looking forward to it.
Thanks! These things are alot of fun on the track! I come from a motocross-then dirt oval-now street background, and next year will be my first full year in the car. Its definately a big change, but alot of fun.

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Looks awesome! I love the cage and the simplicity of the carb setup. But please dont paint it blue and yellow again. Lol
It will still be a yellow cage and blue body, but since we also run endurance races which run into the night, we want to keep it on the flashy side, but the exterior design is out the door. Thanks!
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Removal of undercoating... I luckily didnt participate in this, but the car owner and my dad got that enjoyment.





And the PARTIAL bag before we started collecting the undercoating... It weighs about 20 pounds.


Stop... Hammertime



And of course, my shop dog:
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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I dug up some old videos from 2009, so if yall are bored and want something to watch, here ya go. We're a "little" underpowered at this point, which is why we have a new motor on the way. MANY updates have been done since this video, such as Weber carbs, crankfire ignition, and we've gone through 2 pairs of fuel pumps since then:

Driver: Joey
Summit Point 1989 Mazda RX7

Driver/Owner: Lee
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Old Jan 29, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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Thanks man... I'm in my first year at a trade school for collision repair, so some of the stuff is being done at school and some is being done at home in my garage. This is my first car I'm doing myself start to finish, so I guess we'll see how it turns out. I'm going to get it as best as I can, but its a race car. I don't want alot of extra weight from the plastic, so I'm trying to use as little of it as I can.

I guess its time for some more updates...

Pass side door:









Drivers door:





I should have a stud gun lined up for this weekend, so hopefully I'll be able to get a good bit of work done to the quarter panels.
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Didnt get the stud gun for the weekend, I forgot to pick it up. DOH!

I also didnt get any work done on the doors, I had to paint this:




My dad spent some time on the car, I know he's repacked all the bearings in the axles and he's started to shave the firewall and get it all sealed up. I also bought a touch-up gun to paint the inner fenders, and also purchased paint for the underside... So much to do, so little time.
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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nice work man, time wise how long did all this take you?
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Old Feb 4, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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nice car, nice setup. diggin' the crankfire
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JK5S
nice work man, time wise how long did all this take you?
Whew, I have no idea. total man hours in the body work so far is probably right around 40 so far. I'm a little slow, I like to take my time and get it as absolutely perfect as I possibly can and it doesn't really help that there was previous body work done to the car... I'm pretty new at this, so it would probably take someone who knows what theyre doing about half the amount of time. I can't really answer how much time has been spent on the rest of the car, only because I have been so busy with the body I havent had much time to do anything else.

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nice car, nice setup. diggin' the crankfire
Thanks man, she's gettin there slowly but steadily.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Please explain, I see only Trailing spark plugs connected and the leading plugged. I'm fairly new to the rx7 tuning but would like to know more. I don’t see a distributor cap with the carb setup, so what sort of engine management are you using? I have an 6212 MSD DIS2 spark control, would that work in this particular setup if I decide to switch to carbs?
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NVW55V
Originally Posted by JK5S
Please explain, I see only Trailing spark plugs connected and the leading plugged. I'm fairly new to the rx7 tuning but would like to know more. I don’t see a distributor cap with the carb setup, so what sort of engine management are you using? I have an 6212 MSD DIS2 spark control, would that work in this particular setup if I decide to switch to carbs?
you have it backwards. the lower plugs are the leading plugs, not the trailing.

also, you're right there is no distributor cap because there is no distributor. look at the front main pulley, you'll see a trigger wheel (the toothed gear-looking thing). it suggests that he's running some kind of ignition-only computer, since he appears to be running a functional carburetor. i'm sure the owner/builder can confirm or correct me if i have misspoken on his setup.

you're might get a quicker answer to your MSD question if you search or start a separate thread. off the top of my head, i'm not familiar with the 6212 or DIS2 or whatever. however, i'll say this, if it's similar to the MSD 6AL amplifiers, then yes, you shouldn't have a problem using one carb'd or fuel injected.
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Very cool, so what are the plans for color? cant say i liked how the car looked before.
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nice work so far I'm also gonna keep an eye on this build. Where are ya from? Im in area code 845 about 80 miles north of NYC I'm looking for a body guy to get some work done to my FC.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NVW55V
Paint design is still being decided upon, but the dark blue is going to stay; were just not sure what kind of design to do yet.

Comments/suggestions/discussion/CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is openly welcome.
yes, i distracted before and forgot to comment on this ....

i'm glad you're keeping the color dark blue. i think you should lose the yellow accents though. i prefer no accents at all, but if you must, maybe white, black or gray accents?
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JK5S
Please explain, I see only Trailing spark plugs connected and the leading plugged. I'm fairly new to the rx7 tuning but would like to know more. I don’t see a distributor cap with the carb setup, so what sort of engine management are you using? I have an 6212 MSD DIS2 spark control, would that work in this particular setup if I decide to switch to carbs?
See post below... We are running leading spark plugs only and had custom plugs made to block off the trailing plugs.

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you have it backwards. the lower plugs are the leading plugs, not the trailing.

also, you're right there is no distributor cap because there is no distributor. look at the front main pulley, you'll see a trigger wheel (the toothed gear-looking thing). it suggests that he's running some kind of ignition-only computer, since he appears to be running a functional carburetor. i'm sure the owner/builder can confirm or correct me if i have misspoken on his setup.

you're might get a quicker answer to your MSD question if you search or start a separate thread. off the top of my head, i'm not familiar with the 6212 or DIS2 or whatever. however, i'll say this, if it's similar to the MSD 6AL amplifiers, then yes, you shouldn't have a problem using one carb'd or fuel injected.


Correct. We are running the Electromotive XDI crankfire ignition and dual Weber carbs. Heres a link to their homepage:

http://www.directignition.com/index.html

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Very cool, so what are the plans for color? cant say i liked how the car looked before.
It will still be the yellow roll cage, and the exterior will be dark blue with some sort of design. I'm not sure what were doing, I've got a few ideas in mind but I honestly cant say I have any idea what I'm going to do yet

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nice work so far I'm also gonna keep an eye on this build. Where are ya from? Im in area code 845 about 80 miles north of NYC I'm looking for a body guy to get some work done to my FC.
I'm in 717, so I'm about 6 hours from you. To be honest, I've only been doing collision repair for about 6 months. It just takes a really good attention to detail, ALOT of patitence, and the confidence that you can do it. I'd gladly work on it, but I have this car to build and I'm supposed to rebuild my MK2 Golf VR6, but shoot me a PM and we'll figure something out.

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yes, i distracted before and forgot to comment on this ....

i'm glad you're keeping the color dark blue. i think you should lose the yellow accents though. i prefer no accents at all, but if you must, maybe white, black or gray accents?
The accents will be white. It will be simple but clean. More on this later when its time
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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I guess while I'm here I'll toss up an update:




No MIG here... It's all artwork:


Tacked up:





Enjoy the Superbowl, and GO STEELERS!
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Looks good man. That's a cool project to learn bodywork on. I want to enroll in a class and do my cars, but I don't feel like I have the time. Full time job and a wife. It's amazing how those things take up so much time.
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nice body work ! I wish I can do that
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