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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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k2rd coilovers vs tein

which would u guys get and why?
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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the tein shocks and springs and matched to each other. The shocks are valved to the springs. The AGX shock isnt that great, and with heaver springs, the shocks could be out of the range of dampening. I forgot which ones are the HE's are, are those the non-adjustable ones? i would go with the HA's just because they are adjustable. The RA's i think would be a little to much for the street (over 500lbs+ springs) and i dont know if you want that much hassle tuning them, since they are 2 way adjustable. And its not as simple as 'make them stiff and go'. If you want to know how to properly adjust 2 way shocks, let me know.

Im sure the K2RD setup is fine, but its not the best. If you go the tein route, its going to cost a bit more, but you will get better stuff in the end. It will cost about $1400 to get the tien HA's coilovers, the mounts, which i think include camber plates, and the rear camber adjust link.

im thinking of going with the RA or HA shocks, i havent decided yet though. If i go with the RA's i wont be doing much street drving, so i think ill go with the HA's just for better streetability and the sake of simplicity. Though the HA's arnt much softer.... 450lbs front springs...

also, this is going to make your suspension so stiff that chassis flex might become an issue on handeling.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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the HEs are the "drift" coil overs that come with mounts already on them, not as extra
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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I cant even believe that this is a poll, TEINS! no question about it, ALL the stuff oc mentioned above, plus they are rebuildable.

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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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dont get the drift setup for the steet. youll get in trouble in a emergency situation...
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 01:25 AM
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I ahve the full K2rd kit. If I could decide before I purchased my K2RD I would have chosen the Tien Coilover system.. Reason why is that the K2RD setup is a great bang for the buck but its not as good as a true coilover system like Tien. And The Tien system has more settings for dampness..

I wouldn't mind selling you my K2rd kit and purchasing the Tien..
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 01:33 AM
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tein but it's 2x as much... no mounts with the cheap tein one.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:18 AM
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TEIN HA's:
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Wormiez
I wouldn't mind selling you my K2rd kit and purchasing the Tien..
Seriously? PM me if you want to talk numbers.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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what about a JIC Magic setup? i thinking about this setup when i get my fc. 2 of my friends have this setup it rides so nice and its not too harsh

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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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whats wrong with the k2rd stuff? they are height adjustable, use inexpensive off the shelf struts, and the spring rates can be customized for the car while being cheaper than the teins. if you were going for something a lot better than the k2rd why not go for ohlins or penske or something really nice?

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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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truth is that most people wouldn't be able to distinguish between the two by driving the same car and changing setups keeping all else equal (including spring rates). Sure they can tell if they are stiffer or not through each respective adjustment range but they couldn't tell you which set really feels better. That said, most just judge them based on looks and price. Which leads to"They look better and are more expensive so that will make me and my car faster" lol
That being said, unless you are track driving, go with the K2RD set.
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Old Jan 30, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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TEINs, all the way. I have a set of HA's on my FC and they are frockin' dope.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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I believe M5150 went with the JIC FLT-2.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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What about the Tein Flex damper kit? That also fits the 7's, is it better or worse for street then the HE's/HA's? Reason I am wondering is that those are the only ones compatible with an EDFC for 7's and I would like to be able to get that if/when I do get the Teins next winter. (just going off what it says on the Tein website, so if the HE/HA set is compatible just say so. )

And in response to the poll I would say go with the Teins, you know they are gonna be awesome quality and are gonna be worth spending that extra cash to get.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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HA's are the entry level coilovers and HE's are drift specific coilovers. I think the Flex has more adjustibility then the HA.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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For the money the teins are AMAZING
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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For the money, do the Tein's give you that much more performance?
I've seen really crappy shock dyno sheets from all those Cusco/Tein/JIC type of coilover systems, while the KYB has one of the widest adjustment ranges in the business.  I just love when people post opinions that have no objective backing for their conclusions.  I'd like to see a real suspension shoot-out, but I don't think anyone has that kinda money to do a comparo right now.  Paul Ko @ K2RD used to be the head Advance Design shock tech up at Ground Control, and I bet he knows a thing or two about shocks.  He also races an FC NA that uses all his suspension parts, so it's all race tested.

The Tein Flex system is also a comfort type damper system - Tein even prints this in their brochures, so it's more a street set-up versus a serious race set-up.  I just love seeing all the cars in the magazines have the Tein Flex dampers and try and pass the car on as a "race car".



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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:58 AM
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I have Tein's and there a great suspension, but I don't think there any better than the others... Its a stiff F'n ride and great for the road course, but they suck for the street (generally) .... K-Office, Cusco, K2Rd, KYB, GRound Control, etc. make good stuff... I also have some Blistein's that I really liked... There all over priced.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by OC_
dont get the drift setup for the steet. youll get in trouble in a emergency situation...
care to explain?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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To all those who don't understand why people pay for the Teins: when you're at a car show, what gets more respect (and maybe points)? JDM.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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I have the tein HE's and love them.. but I can safely say that I havent gotten a chance to take them to the limit yet. I chose these because they came with the mounts (was looking at HA or HE at the time, and I was unaware of the K2RD package).
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by jdmsuper7
To all those who don't understand why people pay for the Teins: when you're at a car show, what gets more respect (and maybe points)? JDM.
Stop talking out of your ***. Teins make great coilovers and they work well for racing. They are not as cheap as K2RD or GC but they're still on cheap side of coilovers compared to JIC, HKS, A'pexi, etc. I also didn't know that you get scored on what brand your coilover is at a carshow?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Stop talking out of your ***. Teins make great coilovers and they work well for racing. They are not as cheap as K2RD or GC but they're still on cheap side of coilovers compared to JIC, HKS, A'pexi, etc. I also didn't know that you get scored on what brand your coilover is at a carshow?
who looks under the car to see what shocks you have anyways?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by j9fd3s
who looks under the car to see what shocks you have anyways?
yeah. That, too
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