JTP's FC Got STOLEN! please open!
Rotary Freak
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Troy,Mi
Did the OP have insurance?
I didn't see that.
I remember back in 2006 when my custom built street fighter got stolen, changed my life.
Now I'm a total ***** and hate everyone.
Rest in peace baby, daddy thinks about you everyday
I didn't see that.
I remember back in 2006 when my custom built street fighter got stolen, changed my life.
Now I'm a total ***** and hate everyone.
Rest in peace baby, daddy thinks about you everyday
Rotary Freak
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Troy,Mi
In all reality the OP will NEVER get it back.
It will be stripped and parted out or it will sit for many many years and the OP will NEVER see it again.
Its frustrating to see idiots on here pretend like they even know what it feels like to have that happen to them or that they actually give enough of a **** to "look for it".
Everyone is just giving the OP false hope and the sooner he realizes he will never see the car again the better.
I understand why he posted this thread, he needs to feel like he is doing all he can to get it back, I handed out fliers for weeks when my bike was stolen but in all honesty the best thing I ever did was realize it was gone for good and I needed to stop wasting my efforts in hopes of getting it back.
You live and learn, now you know if you ever love a car or bike and you don't want it stolen you should spend the extra $5 on a cell phone with GPS tracking and stash it in the car somewhere that it cant be found or removed.
I actually thought I would like to get together with people who have had their car or bike stolen and buy a really nice brand new R1 or similar and leave it out at various placed to purposely get stolen, the bike would have a GPS tracker on it and after its successfully stolen we would perform a specific kind of justice on the individuals who took it, things like stealing everything they own while they are gone literally causing them to go bankrupt. With a group of people I believe this to be possible. I dont want to go further into details because its still something I would be interested in doing, contact me if your interested in helping.
It will be stripped and parted out or it will sit for many many years and the OP will NEVER see it again.
Its frustrating to see idiots on here pretend like they even know what it feels like to have that happen to them or that they actually give enough of a **** to "look for it".
Everyone is just giving the OP false hope and the sooner he realizes he will never see the car again the better.
I understand why he posted this thread, he needs to feel like he is doing all he can to get it back, I handed out fliers for weeks when my bike was stolen but in all honesty the best thing I ever did was realize it was gone for good and I needed to stop wasting my efforts in hopes of getting it back.
You live and learn, now you know if you ever love a car or bike and you don't want it stolen you should spend the extra $5 on a cell phone with GPS tracking and stash it in the car somewhere that it cant be found or removed.
I actually thought I would like to get together with people who have had their car or bike stolen and buy a really nice brand new R1 or similar and leave it out at various placed to purposely get stolen, the bike would have a GPS tracker on it and after its successfully stolen we would perform a specific kind of justice on the individuals who took it, things like stealing everything they own while they are gone literally causing them to go bankrupt. With a group of people I believe this to be possible. I dont want to go further into details because its still something I would be interested in doing, contact me if your interested in helping.
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From: Moscow, Russia
i build my car with memory of JTP FC3S
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Wilhelm!
Joined: May 2010
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From: Ventura, California
Damn that's ******* gay. I caught a ****** attempting to steal my fc...... He went to the hospital with many face injuries and broken wrists. I'm in cali but ill keep my eyes peeled man, that's a beautiful car, ill beat the ****** for ya if I see it.
Yeah, this is super sketchy. I've been designing vehicle security products (car alarms, GPS tracking, remote start, etc.) for almost 15 years now. That '04 truck is equipped with GM Passlock II for the immobilizer. It can be bypassed with resistors and relays but only if someone has access to an original key. Using an original key is the only way to read the valid resistance value for duplication. So, there's really only 3-ways around it.
1) They detached the trailer and put the truck on a flatbed towing the trailer behind (most likely scenario). This is where trailer connection security is most crucial.
2) Someone was able to get the VIN and go to a chevy dealer. They can cut a key with just the VIN. They are supposed to validate that the person buying the key is the owner but many dealerships do not. Or, the theif had a friend at a dealership cutting him keys. Either way, they'd have to had access to the truck before and planned this to line everything up.
3) Inside job. Someone was given or stole a spare key.
I'm always suspicious of scenarios like this, especially with the trailer involved/attached. That greatly complicates the theft effort if your trailer to truck connections are secure. It takes plannning and proper equipment. It's rarely an opportunistic theft like many other thefts. The van I do all my towing with is loaded with everything available for this purpose. Even if the trailer wiring is simply unplugged from my van, the alarm will trigger and I'll get almost instant notification via text message to my cell.
Mike
1) They detached the trailer and put the truck on a flatbed towing the trailer behind (most likely scenario). This is where trailer connection security is most crucial.
2) Someone was able to get the VIN and go to a chevy dealer. They can cut a key with just the VIN. They are supposed to validate that the person buying the key is the owner but many dealerships do not. Or, the theif had a friend at a dealership cutting him keys. Either way, they'd have to had access to the truck before and planned this to line everything up.
3) Inside job. Someone was given or stole a spare key.
I'm always suspicious of scenarios like this, especially with the trailer involved/attached. That greatly complicates the theft effort if your trailer to truck connections are secure. It takes plannning and proper equipment. It's rarely an opportunistic theft like many other thefts. The van I do all my towing with is loaded with everything available for this purpose. Even if the trailer wiring is simply unplugged from my van, the alarm will trigger and I'll get almost instant notification via text message to my cell.
Mike
Justin I was doing a little investigating of my own. being as there was no broken glass or any signs of forced entry I was wondering how this was possible. I know a few guys that work at dealers so I called one of them that work in parts dept. I asked him how hard it would be to get a replacement key for a car. Basically it's ridiculous.
All someone has to do is call in with a VIN number and the dealer will program a chipped key for X amount of money. They don't ask questions because its easy money and not many people have access to someone else's VIN.
In short they probably got the vin off the dashboard through the windshield and called it in. With a key to your truck they could unlock the door with the key and it will disable the alarm.
I would call every dealer in the area and ask if any keys for your trucks VIN were ordered. It could be a start.
All someone has to do is call in with a VIN number and the dealer will program a chipped key for X amount of money. They don't ask questions because its easy money and not many people have access to someone else's VIN.
In short they probably got the vin off the dashboard through the windshield and called it in. With a key to your truck they could unlock the door with the key and it will disable the alarm.
I would call every dealer in the area and ask if any keys for your trucks VIN were ordered. It could be a start.
Believe you me, when a car as high profile as this is stolen, the people doing the work already have a myriad of other people that they can offload the parts to. They don't just hold onto hot inventory like that. Buyer is lined up before the job is ever considered.
Most of them, perhaps.
But one of the most dangerous mentalities is that thieves are somehow less intelligent than anybody else. Thieves are people like you and me, and you will find smart thieves along with dumb ones.
It's like the attitude about drug dealers. "Oh yeah, they gotta be retarded to do something illegal and stupid like that." I think you would be surprised how many very intelligent, university educated drug dealers there are.
Doing stuff like this isn't about intelligence, it's about risk management. Different people will take different levels of risk, and smart ones may even be able to lower their personal risk for something that could be considered "high risk." This can apply to stealing just as much as it can apply to the stock market.
The people who can coordinate a job like this are certainly not "retarded." They may be unsavory to mainstream society. But to deride thieves as "retarded" really doesn't speak well for those who are victimized. After all, who wants to get ripped off by a bunch of "idiots?"
That you hold onto the hope that they will get sloppy and leave an FC shell on the street complete with one of their wallets is laughable. They've been 2 steps ahead of you the entire way. The destination of that car was determined long before it was taken from its rightful owner.
But one of the most dangerous mentalities is that thieves are somehow less intelligent than anybody else. Thieves are people like you and me, and you will find smart thieves along with dumb ones.
It's like the attitude about drug dealers. "Oh yeah, they gotta be retarded to do something illegal and stupid like that." I think you would be surprised how many very intelligent, university educated drug dealers there are.
Doing stuff like this isn't about intelligence, it's about risk management. Different people will take different levels of risk, and smart ones may even be able to lower their personal risk for something that could be considered "high risk." This can apply to stealing just as much as it can apply to the stock market.
The people who can coordinate a job like this are certainly not "retarded." They may be unsavory to mainstream society. But to deride thieves as "retarded" really doesn't speak well for those who are victimized. After all, who wants to get ripped off by a bunch of "idiots?"
That you hold onto the hope that they will get sloppy and leave an FC shell on the street complete with one of their wallets is laughable. They've been 2 steps ahead of you the entire way. The destination of that car was determined long before it was taken from its rightful owner.
