It's the, "hot-damn i went fmic, and i'm lovin' it like McDonald's!"--pics inside
 

Okay, i just went fmic, and i said i wanted to retain the a/c and p/s. needless to say, he had quite a task ahead of him. but, he did it, and damn it looks/feels good to go front mount. here are the pics...

last one...

hm...i guess arch needs a pic of the fmic....well, i cant remember the exact dimensions of mine, i just know its 6" tall because i wanted to keep my front bumper supports. so i specifically looked for a 6" tall intercooler.

thats a shit load of pipes. i dont know shit about Turbo FCs but im guessing the reason why its all curvy is because you kept your a/c and p/s? without the a/c and p/s you'd probably run it straighter right?

pretty much. if i didnt keep a/c or p/s, then it would be a hell of a lot shorter, and pretty much straight. but, once i go electrical fan and koyo alum. radiator, then that huge curve near the fan shroud will be eliminated, and it should be considerably shorter. right now, i am just indulging in the fact that the car runs almost perfectly as far as idling and boosting is concerned. its almost like driving a normal car!! but, the shortening of pipes will be a future application. right now, i am saving money to go to japan, so its kind of on a back-burner until i get back and save more money!!!

Ryan Shannon.

awesome shit, whats your plans next?

put in my wideband o2 sensor, install my piggy back fuel controller, then put in a boost controller w/ boost gauge. probly just keep it at 10psi max. then, get the minor electrical glitch straightened out, and install my full audio system, vacuum the shit out of it, get a nice air freshener, and enjoy it until i go full ems. maybe i will do that when i get back from japan and before i go to school full time till i graduate. you know, gotta have a badass car in college years, its your prime y'know?!

Ryan Shannon.

Looks nice, the pipes make the engine look a little messy, but I`m sure with an electric fan it would look better.

wow, i'm jelous, i'm so taking those pics too the shop, they have no where to pipe 2 1/2 inch tubing since i have AC and PS still....

yep that looks approx. what my front mount will look like, though i can see my foggies have to go....

:(

hard compex way:
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...hmentid=121077

Easy way:

http://rx7cz.net/photos/intercooler/DSC00021.jpg
http://rx7cz.net/photos/intercooler/DSC00019.jpg

Yeah, no doubt, that's some serious piping there when you could've mimicked greddy and snuck in next to the PS pump!

Wow, lots of pipes! :D

Get rid of the POS rad and get a REAL upgrade rad! :D


-Ted

That's a lot of fucking piping!

Watch the language please..lol I kidd I kidd. Nice pipes...Seems excessive though..lol

NICE, do you know your oil temps after the FMIC?

whats the diameter on the greddy piping kit?...

whats the diam of the piping you used? Im guessing greddy is 2.5 or something around there.

Greddy stages their piping from the turbo to the throttle body, i think it goes through 3 phases.


that thing is also pretty damn close to the positive terminal of the battery is it not? that is not a good thing...

I'd worry mroe about the engine torqing and crushing that pipe. The battery should have the cover on it or have a boot over the positive terminal.

that GReddy piping is soo sweet. god im learning so much now since i check the 2nd gen forum first instead of the lounge.

Actually it only goes through 2 phases of sizes. I cant remember exactly what size but when I recently put on my front mount on, the piping from the turbo to the intercooler end tank is one size, and from the other end tank to the throttle body is the other bigger size.

That's a lot of pipes. When I made my "kit" I ran a straight shot to the throttle body side and kept the power steering and AC. Just went right over the top of them... There's only about an inch between the pipe and the belts but there's enough room between them and the hood. I moved the battery to the passanger bin, and the pipes are really close to the oil filler. Maybe someday when I get a camera I'll post some pics. By the way my piping is 2.5

GReddy piping is typically 60mm.
It's slightly smaller than 2.5".


-Ted

the extra piping is for extra cooling! :)

yeah check these out. i just finished this project not too long ago. i cut the pipes myself andhad a friend weld them. seems to fit good. i kept the A/C and P/S but had to relocate the battery.

Since i am running the stock turbo, the hotside is 2" and the cold pipe is 2.5. My intercooler core actually has 3" inlet/outlet. so it flows over 1450+cfm (got it pressure/flow tested...good up to just over 48psi...like im gonna run anything near that...) and my piping is pretty safe distance from either one of the battery terminals. I do realize it is alot of piping, but i also dont have to remove a pipe to change my oil and spark plugs. also helps to work on the engine a little bit, since its only 2 worm gears i have to loosen, and a bolt on top of the manifold if i have to take any other that off. but, as REted stated above, once i go koyo and electrical fan, then i should be able to eliminate that giant "S" curve, and just run a straight piece of pipe to eliminate all that piping that goes around the fan shroud. But, razorback is going to sell me his 87 turbo-II tranny for 175 to my door in the next couple of weeks. SOOoOooOOoOooO...looks like that takes precedence over the radiator right now (my tranny has a fucked up set spring--a little knob to shift around from 1st-2nd, and my 5th gear synchro is out). as for the oil temps...i have NO idea...but, considering the intercooler itself is only 6" tall and 3" thick, i am suggesting it shouldnt be AS BAD as a big ass +9" core i see many people use. also, i get to keep my bumper supports. which i stipulated earlier. i just dont like to lean against the front of my car, and feel like i am going to fall into the engine bay. ive done that a couple times...it sucks. and actually REted, if you could still help me out with that wiring for my field sfc, that would be most awesome of you...i also need the dip settings for it...if you could help a fellow rotorhead out. so, after i get the rad-shroud removed, it should look some thing similar to the old school apexi/hks fmic kits...when the outlet was hooking over the top of the intercooler, and the cold pipe ran across the top of the engine in a straight line to the TB. only mine will be a bit shorter. overall, i am impressed, and that turbo wants to spool pretty damn fast now....only if i had a better non-twin scroll turbo with a real wastegate...oh well, that will be later. radiator/tranny/reliability mods (wbo2, etc....) first, fast/fun later.

Thanks for the feedback guys....oh yeah, thanks for reminding me about the oil temp sensor...i am actually anxiously awaiting j-rats pics for his "az heat!" mod!!

Ryan Shannon.

looks alright but alittle to much piping still looks nice

wires everywhere!!! is there a clean turbo engine bay out there?

minee!

I haven't forgotten! :(
I had a lot of business inquiries so the past two weekends was trying to help out potential customers. :(
I should be able to get you the information by the end of the week!



-Ted

wow I feel like a mouse looking for cheese with those pipes.

Oh, its cool REted. Youve helped me quite a bit with your responses (whether you know it or not) throughout my (mis)adventures with my Rx. Ive been searching for almost anything i had wrong with this car since ive been putting it back together. Actually, its usually been you, NZconvertible, or Icemark whose responses ive found the most helpful. So, the way i see it, i still owe you a shit load more favors than you need to help me. but, i really would like to lean out my stuff to at least partially rich, instead of "wow, now youre REALLY wasting gas!" i dont mind running rich, but to the degree of what it is now....its not cool. Plus, i need to get the wideband in this weekend...so, i will probly do that first. then try to get the sfc hyper r installed after i have some thing thats accurate to monitor it.

Thanks for everything,
Ryan Shannon.

nice work, does your hood close??? :D

doesnt the travel of the air into the intake take much longer there by reducing the spool time with that setup?

Dear lord ...reminds me of a screen saver. Hows the car feel now?

nope... the opposite should happen if i recall. should create lag...then again im not quite sure im just agreeing with you, or contradicting you, so....yeah with his set up, it might be a bit laggy but technicaly should make more tourqe (again that what i have heard) so that just my .02

Thats a shit load of pipes!

Damn and to think I did it with 3in.

it looks like the stock turbo...if so then spool shouldnt be a problem... so have fun yall..

It´s not done yet but here is how I routed my pipes, I think it´s fairly clean...

http://molehill.wankeltrim.se/docs/i...50041liten.JPG

Fairly my ass. Thats a work of art right there.

Damn that looks realllllllly nice. good job man, post up some pics when you get that thing finished.

duh duh wtf? Dayamn!

molehill did you beed blast all your metal parts on the TB hood latch and fuel rail ine? And the TB UIM as well?

A friend of my that works with electrolplatening, has redone the surfaces.
They are exactly like new ones now!

Here is a pic a took this evening:

http://molehill.wankeltrim.se/docs/i...60030liten.JPG

More to come...

your setup is completely different than his.. You cant even use ps,or ac which is the main reason he stated for the routing of his pipes... and even if he didnt have that.. I guarantee you he spent alot less money on his than you did on yours...

Although I dont agree on his setup, yours doesnt prove anything. He couldnt even use the stock rad.

minus the duct tape holding the BOV on :owned: j/k

looks alot better than my n/a set up... :bigthumb:

Yea it's much harder to keep the p/s + a/c and run your intercooler pipe. The a/c compressor isn't in the pics but it fit's (using it now)--but there sure ain't much room. Here's mine:

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=69233

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=69225

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=69227

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=69229

Oh forgot to mention it's an FB :)

Yepp! You´re absolutely right! My post was just an answer to rxseven07´s question.
I´m sorry for hijacking the thread!

I've got one big problem with that set-up...
The rad top bar was cut for the pipes; this compromises strength.
I'd bet if I leaned on that bar (a lot of people do), it'll bend... :(


-Ted

That is just a problem when the hood latch isn´t there.
With it in place it´s no problem. I made it out of 3mm stainless steel.
And the engine side of the bar is just cut a little bit.

It also here the sticker I got from Summit comes into play:
"Look as much you want, but please don´t touch!"

Btw the duct tape is gone now... The pop- and blow off is welded
in place. ;)