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Originally posted by NZConvertible
Because 880cc/min (four 550cc/min injectors at 40%) is not enough fuel to support 200hp (S5 TII). 55-60% would be more realistic.
Because 880cc/min (four 550cc/min injectors at 40%) is not enough fuel to support 200hp (S5 TII). 55-60% would be more realistic.
I know it was a supposition, but it was still wrong. There's no point in saying, "what if it was 40%" when we know it isn't from other info available. I'm just trying to dispel all the myths about this, not add more.
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If there's no duty cycle max, then whats the reasoning behind the Rtec7 chip?
Increase primary injector duty cycle cap by ~5%:
Raising the cap allows a little bit more out of the primary injectors. This works in conjunction with the lower Secondary Injection RPM to smooth out air/fuel ratio and get rid of the lean spot.
Increase primary injector duty cycle cap by ~5%:
Raising the cap allows a little bit more out of the primary injectors. This works in conjunction with the lower Secondary Injection RPM to smooth out air/fuel ratio and get rid of the lean spot.
Originally posted by J-Rat
Waitning for NZC to pick up on this one...
Waitning for NZC to pick up on this one...
Last edited by NZConvertible; Apr 11, 2004 at 02:18 AM.
***** Also, what AFM percentages are you seeing at WOT? *******
So? J-RAT. What are the percentage that you see at wide open throttle???
And am I missing something here? Do not one of the folk that have written on this thread not have a meter with the Duty Cycle feature on it??? It seems that way....but that can't be. So what is the max duty cycle that you, whoever you are, are seeing at wide open throttle and what is the max pulse width in ms that your seeing? What I see does not correspond to some of what I see here......therefore my meter must be wrong or I can't read the meter.
So? J-RAT. What are the percentage that you see at wide open throttle???
And am I missing something here? Do not one of the folk that have written on this thread not have a meter with the Duty Cycle feature on it??? It seems that way....but that can't be. So what is the max duty cycle that you, whoever you are, are seeing at wide open throttle and what is the max pulse width in ms that your seeing? What I see does not correspond to some of what I see here......therefore my meter must be wrong or I can't read the meter.
Here's a 87TurboII, virtual stock car, meter set to DutyCycle, Percent, car in forth gear and not even all the way wound out. Had to hit the Hold Button because the Min/Max will lose it's memory when I let off the throttle and the injectors go to.....zero percent. Done shut down on me.
Last edited by HAILERS; Apr 12, 2004 at 06:58 PM.
Pretty picture... My AFM percentages only see around 74% Thats percentage of opening as recorded on the SAFC.
NOW, on to the questions for HAILERS. That was a max hold reading, so at some point or another, it hit 80% duty cycle. Was it BEFORE the 3800 transition? AFTER the 3800 Transition? Primary? Secondary?
Lets not loose sight of the fact that the ECU cuts duty cycle after the magical 3800 rpm point.
NOW, on to the questions for HAILERS. That was a max hold reading, so at some point or another, it hit 80% duty cycle. Was it BEFORE the 3800 transition? AFTER the 3800 Transition? Primary? Secondary?
Lets not loose sight of the fact that the ECU cuts duty cycle after the magical 3800 rpm point.
NO. This sucker had passed the 3800 rpm mark long ago and was well on it's way to 90percent. I had the meter originally set on Duty Cycle and had pressed the Min/Max button to capture the MAX Duty Cycle percent, but alas it does not work out that way in real life. I mean the meter was capturing the Min/Max/Avg, but the problem was that when I let off the throttle .....the injectors shut off and the meter went to zero. For some reason I lose the Max/Avg/Min when the injectors go to zero.
So on the next opportunity I just held the meter in my hand and when my eye caught the thing going up towards eighty I hit the HOLD button. That button does not seem to care if the injectors go to zero or the meter leads are taken to put the meter on a scanner.
Again.....long past the crossover where the secondary injectors come online.
Maybe tomorrow I can capture a low nintey percent for you ........at seven grand and above.
So on the next opportunity I just held the meter in my hand and when my eye caught the thing going up towards eighty I hit the HOLD button. That button does not seem to care if the injectors go to zero or the meter leads are taken to put the meter on a scanner.
Again.....long past the crossover where the secondary injectors come online.
Maybe tomorrow I can capture a low nintey percent for you ........at seven grand and above.
Actually, thats good to see, I assume thats an S5 car? I would assume that there will be slight differences in injector duty cycles between the two.
Dont get me wrong, I am not here trying to backup some 60% theory, I want the facts. I want to believe that the ECU is capable of those kinds of numbers. Of course HAILERS is giving me what I want, concrete proof.
Dont get me wrong, I am not here trying to backup some 60% theory, I want the facts. I want to believe that the ECU is capable of those kinds of numbers. Of course HAILERS is giving me what I want, concrete proof.
I don't have a series five. I have three series four.
The good series.
I was going to send a jpg of a graph with the primarys at 3.75volts.....but alas, the site keeps saying my 504 is timed out all the time...so no graph
Maybe tomorrow I'll HOLD the injectors and show the Pulse in MS at about the same throttle.
The good series.
I was going to send a jpg of a graph with the primarys at 3.75volts.....but alas, the site keeps saying my 504 is timed out all the time...so no graph
Maybe tomorrow I'll HOLD the injectors and show the Pulse in MS at about the same throttle.
Originally posted by WAYNE88N/A
DAMN! low 90's on the PRIMARIES?
DAMN! low 90's on the PRIMARIES?
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