2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

I'm one lucky SOB

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-02-03, 09:39 PM
  #1  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 1,739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool I'm one lucky SOB

so I was pulling apart my engine for my rebuild, and I pull off the UIM. the first thing I notice is there are 2 cracking fuel lines. I don't know if they were leaking, or getting ready to explode. they were BAD. then, I unbolt the fuel rail, and pull it off(picking it up with my hand around the PD). I set it on the ground, and the little plastic cap falls off (its cracked), and the little screw comes out with it.
so then I look on top of the engine, and in a little cup between the LIM and the engine, there's a puddle of GASOLINE!! I have no idea how long it was leaking, I'm just lucky it didn't make it to my exhaust manifold.

you can see how the PD was totaly broken in this picture:


Last edited by Bigretardhead; 09-02-03 at 09:58 PM.
Old 09-02-03, 09:43 PM
  #2  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Gloves? Wussy! J/K

Funny this came up, I'm having the same problem right now

I'm rebuilding all the fuel lines under the UIM, got a replacement pulsation dampener, and I'm also replacing the primary fuel rail..

How is your injector grommets? Mine are no good. Oh well. They are cheap.

Replacement Line: 5/16 - 7.9mm High Pressure FI Line
Old 09-02-03, 09:45 PM
  #3  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 1,739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
this one shows one of the cracked hoses and some of the fuel sitting on the engine. the cracked hose looks MUCH worse in person.


Last edited by Bigretardhead; 09-02-03 at 09:57 PM.
Old 09-02-03, 09:46 PM
  #4  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BTW - I have alot of splash stains from fuel all over my bellhousing. When I found the leak it was dripping down and narrowly missing the exhaust manifold.

I actually had a stab mark in my primary to secondary rail line.. Coulda been form dinking around down there with misc. vacuum lines.. Be careful guys..
Old 09-02-03, 09:50 PM
  #5  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
ERAUMAZDA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Daytona beach
Posts: 1,351
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
wow u are lucky
Old 09-02-03, 09:53 PM
  #6  
Rotary Freak

 
Fingers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 2,788
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you're one lucky SOB
Old 09-02-03, 09:53 PM
  #7  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 1,739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm rebuilding all the fuel lines under the UIM, got a replacement pulsation dampener, and I'm also replacing the primary fuel rail..
I was thinking of replaceing the PD with just a banjo bolt. well, at least I've heard of that being done. does it affect anything besides make it impossible for the PD to leak ?

How is your injector grommets? Mine are no good. Oh well. They are cheap.
the injector gromets actually looked okay. however, I broke one in the removal process. that bitch was stuck in there good. but I was planning on replacing them anyway.

speaking of injectors, the ones in the LIM looked different than the ones in the engine block. I wish I had a picture. but I thought all 4 were supposed to be exactly the same?

BTW - I have alot of splash stains from fuel all over my bellhousing. When I found the leak it was dripping down and narrowly missing the exhaust manifold.
dang. well at least you found the leak and are fixing it. mine showed no signs from the outside. I just discovered it during my engine tear down for my rebuild.
Old 09-02-03, 09:57 PM
  #8  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Banjo bolt has been done. Easiest way is to use one from another doner FC fuel rail. It's free!

I'm not doing the banjo bolt though.. Pulsation dampener is there to dampen the pulsation in the lines.. Who would have guessed!

Many guys have done the banjo bolt with no change/complains to their running and overall fuel system health..
Old 09-02-03, 09:59 PM
  #9  
Eat Rice Don't Drive it.

iTrader: (3)
 
1987RX7guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Laredo, Tx
Posts: 12,752
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
People say taht removing the PD creates more pressure and stress on the the other fuel components but I personally have not had any problems.
Old 09-02-03, 10:02 PM
  #10  
Rotary Freak

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 1,739
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Banjo bolt has been done. Easiest way is to use one from another doner FC fuel rail. It's free!
cool! I'll just take one from one of the extra fuel rails I have.

I'd like to have the PD, but I don't want the risk of it failing again, and setting my engine on fire. that wouldn't make me very happy.
Old 09-02-03, 10:02 PM
  #11  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Interesting stuff posted by HAILERS.







I suggest the read.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...ight=pulsation
Old 09-02-03, 10:04 PM
  #12  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by 1987RX7guy
People say taht removing the PD creates more pressure and stress on the the other fuel components but I personally have not had any problems.
Probably like the fuel pump itself.. I couldn't say for sure though..
Old 09-02-03, 10:20 PM
  #13  
SPQR

iTrader: (1)
 
n4ji's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by ERAUMAZDA
wow u are lucky
I second that, and the girl in his signature!!!!
Old 09-03-03, 08:33 PM
  #14  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
rotary>piston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 873
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
is it possible to swap in a whole s5 fuel rail and still use s4 injectors?
Old 09-03-03, 11:17 PM
  #15  
Currently Winning

 
$150FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by rotary>piston
is it possible to swap in a whole s5 fuel rail and still use s4 injectors?
yes
Old 09-03-03, 11:51 PM
  #16  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by $150FC
yes
How insightful!

Rails are the same in absolutely every way, then?

Difference between S4s and S5s are the low and high impedance injectors.. So I would guess they used the same rails..
Old 09-04-03, 12:58 AM
  #17  
I dont know a damn thing

iTrader: (1)
 
Rotorific's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Evans, Ga
Posts: 1,703
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
No they are not the same they (S5) are better! It is suggested to pick up a set of fuel rails and while your at it just go ahead and get a VDI intake while your at it. -Gabe
Old 09-04-03, 01:02 AM
  #18  
SOLD THE RX-7!

 
Scott 89t2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 7,451
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Black13B
How insightful!

Rails are the same in absolutely every way, then?
if you put in the S5 rail. you will need the 2 bolts from the S5 as well that bolt it down. as they are shorter or longer. one of those.
Old 09-04-03, 01:15 AM
  #19  
I dont know a damn thing

iTrader: (1)
 
Rotorific's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Evans, Ga
Posts: 1,703
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Shorter sir.
Old 09-04-03, 01:36 AM
  #20  
Finally I have LSD

 
twistedriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can you always smell the gas??

Can you always smell the leaking gas?? I just looked at my pulse dampner it looks alright but the top of the engine is kind of oily. But i don't smell any gas at all should i be worry?? If i was to change the pulse damper what do i need?? Thank you in advance!
Old 09-04-03, 08:05 PM
  #21  
Displacement > Boost

 
88IntegraLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 3,503
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Everybody go out to your cars and check your fuel hoses and pulsation damper! *please*
Old 09-04-03, 09:01 PM
  #22  
Senior Member

 
Mephis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Morgan County, Indiana
Posts: 653
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
that dont look good..
Old 09-04-03, 10:12 PM
  #23  
In Full Autist Cosplay

iTrader: (1)
 
Black13B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Alberta
Posts: 2,330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by 88IntegraLS
Everybody go out to your cars and check your fuel hoses and pulsation damper! *please*
^ Good advice. ^

Seriously. You can see the PD just peeking out from underneath the intake. Easy to see and inspect, but a little bit difficult to get at for removal/replacement.
Old 09-05-03, 02:52 AM
  #24  
Finally I have LSD

 
twistedriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can you always smell the leaking gas?? I just looked at my pulse dampner it looks alright but the top of the engine is kind of oily. But i don't smell any gas at all should i be worry?? If i was to change the pulse damper what do i need?? Thank you in advance! (i really need a reply on it!!! Please!
Old 09-05-03, 05:30 AM
  #25  
Open up! Search Warrant!

 
Project84's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Kicking down doors in a neighborhood near you
Posts: 3,838
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
twisterdriver, run your finger around it, then smell your finger. If your oily finger smells like gas, there is a problem. Black13B is right. Its easy to see, easy to inspect, and a bit difficult to access, but not as difficult as watching your car go up in flames.


Quick Reply: I'm one lucky SOB



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 PM.