I Can't Beleive I Am Askin This...
I never said that TIIs are bad at handling. But good point, a linear power band is much more predictable than a boosted one. I will try and find a TII to test drive. The only thing that appeals to me is the power of the TII will allow for longer drifts and more power oversteer, enabling tighter drifts to be easier. Also, with the power oversteer, feint and tail braking, as well as load shift, would be easier. With N/A, you just gotta pull the hand brake and turn....More refined skill is needed for TII, so I think I should begin on N/A.
Well, drift does not mean speed. Drift means control. Money, well you can get a S5 n/a for the same amount as a S4 TII. The other reason I lean toward the S5 is the exterior styling, cuz you wanna look good when sideways!
I almost lost it on an RX-7 cruise last fall...I never would have lived that one down. It's a good thing I did 2 perfect drifts (one before and one after) to redeem myself. 
"A rotary at 7k RPM and full exhaust gets fun!!" gets even more true if there's a turbo in that exhaust stream.

"A rotary at 7k RPM and full exhaust gets fun!!" gets even more true if there's a turbo in that exhaust stream.
I really think that the non-linear power band is over-hyped as an anti-drifting attribute of the TII. It may be a little harder to learn on, but if you've already got experience, it shouldn't take you more than a few months to feel totally comfortable in your turbo. If that's one of your concerns, I say dismiss it, and grab yourself some boost! 
Steve

Steve
Well, I've driven plenty of both now....
There are definately different.
The TII boost curve is fairly elastic feeling, it just isn't 100% linear and predictable. But you can get so much more low end torque than is possible with any ported N/A.
It's too bad you couldn't take my S5 ported N/A for a drive, you'd probably really like it, it's a very direct feeling, with a solid, linear increase in power as the revs climb...
I've heard a high compression turbo motor doesn't suffer from this problem as much.. I hope that's true on my engine!
There are definately different.
The TII boost curve is fairly elastic feeling, it just isn't 100% linear and predictable. But you can get so much more low end torque than is possible with any ported N/A.
It's too bad you couldn't take my S5 ported N/A for a drive, you'd probably really like it, it's a very direct feeling, with a solid, linear increase in power as the revs climb...
I've heard a high compression turbo motor doesn't suffer from this problem as much.. I hope that's true on my engine!
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO GET ONE OF THOSE!?!?!?!?!?!?! I WILL PAY A **** LOAD FOR ONE OF THOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are 2 TII in my town. 1 is a S4 that is all rusted and probally doesn't even run, the other I suspect is a fake (GXL rims but TII hood and stickers). Bring the GXLII down here, and let me take her for a spin!!!
I did ride in a tuned FD once before!
I did ride in a tuned FD once before!
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rico: I would let you take the GXLII out for a spin, but you wouldn't know how to handle her, too much for you NA guys to handle
However, she is running good now, just need to get that TPS on there and it's all finished
However, she is running good now, just need to get that TPS on there and it's all finished
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ouch, that's hitting below the belt! Don't make me have to stick a FMIC on there and make it a sleeper! You know you want boost rico, just give in to your desires and buy a s4 turbo!


