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Old 09-27-02, 07:49 AM
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Wink Hows this combo sound so far?

How does this combination sound in the 86 GFH:

Pineapple Racing StageII Engine
PR Sleeves
Rewired TII Fuel Pump
89 Pulsation Damper
Fresh Injectors: RC Eng
9.5# RB Aluminum Flywheel
PR 6 Puck Clutch
PR Miata Geared Tranmission with fresh rebuild
Balanced/Rebuilt Driveshaft
4.3 GTUs Pumpkin w/fresh LSD
Rebuilt Halfshafts
11.5# 88 Vert Rims?

I am hoping for an Autocross Killer

Suspension(For the near future, HEHEHE)
KYB AGX's
Eibach Pro Springs
RB DTSS Eliminator Bushings
Urathane Bushings all the way around
New Master Cylinder
Drilled and Slotted Brembo Rotors
Brake PADS???? Not Sure yet

Everything is in the shop or on its way! ( RALF!!!!)
Anything else you would add
Old 09-27-02, 09:17 AM
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what class will all this put you in? B prepaired?
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except I don't see the point of the 89 pulsation dampner... the series 5 (and almost identical series 6) pulsation dampners have the same failure and leak problems that the series 4 do.

And don't forget the clutch slave, master and flex line. rebuilt or new ones make a night and day differnence in clutch feel and action.
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I will be installing a 89 intake on it after it is broken in. I left out the hoses. All HOSES and softparts are being replaced.

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except I don't see the point of the 89 pulsation dampner... the series 5 (and almost identical series 6) pulsation dampners have the same failure and leak problems that the series 4 do.

with close to 4000 posts i would expecta little more than that from you....

the series 4 fuel rail is a cast aluminum rail w/ the puslation damper attached by way of a banjo bolt apparatus. in the end of the damper is an adjusment/retaining screw for the diaphragm, this is covered with a plastic cover. the screw in the s4 often works its way out and spits gas everywhere, once this happens it is pretty much useless and a severe firehazard.

the S5 rail on the other hand is steel w/ an integrated damper, i am sure it could fail but i havnt seen it yet, there is really nothing to fail/come loose in the S5 rails

so no they dont have the same failures that S4's do......

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That sounds like an FP car. With the ported engine, mod'd trans and 4.3 rear gear that is the only place to play legally. You'll need to put the car on a major diet and get some bigger rims but the rest sounds real good.

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Old 09-27-02, 09:36 AM
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i am not familiar with the pineapple stages, is stage II ported, if so i would use a port matched S4 intake, they just flow more.

what about the little mods, TB, porting TB, etc etc....
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who cares about playing legally, unless you are planning on going to nationals with it or something, most of the guys around me just wanna drive the **** out of their cars and dont give a flying $uck about the rules.

you might wanna save your money on the 4.3 "GTUs" rear end and try to scrounge up a 4.3 torsen, i am sure somebody sells them i just dont remember who.

i think they came on JDM Infini IV

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I do not play by: The Sports Car Communists of America's Endless rules and bickering. I will go to their local events and participate.

The LSD will eventually be updated.

Their will be TB mods, don't worry! I just liste the major ****. Its the stuff I havn't listed that you should worry about!!!!
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota


Their will be TB mods, don't worry! I just liste the major ****. Its the stuff I havn't listed that you should worry about!!!!

now that is the words of a true tuner car guy *cough* hack *cough*



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There are those of use that do play legal and do care about playing by the rules. If you have to cheat to win then don't get caught but when someone protest your car don't whine, bitch or complain about it. Just learn to drive better and run the proper class. You'll appreciate the win more when you earn it.

With that said maybe we should ask Banzai what class he is planning on running.
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I am not CHEATING, I resent that FP... I am building MY CAR, THE WAY I LIKE IT, I could care less if they throw me in AP. I am autocrossing because I enjoy driving my car at its limits. If I wanted to compete and be competitive I would join the "car of the year club", and subject myself to the endless scrutiny of SNOTTY-*** know-it-all types from Denver, or wherever the SCCA calls home these days.
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Slow down Banzai. The first part of my reply was directed at RX-7Imprezza and the guys around him that don't give a %uck about the rules. I never said you were cheating. Its just that I've seen some people get really pissed when you tell them there car is not legal where they want to run it. Never said you couldn't run the car but your times don't count toward comparing them to anyone else. Your just kinda out there with no good way to see how you run against other similiarly prepared cars. I realize you don't like the SCCA and their rules and simply want to drive your car to the max. By all means have fun and be safe.

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Who cares about the rules get your damn car together so i can see it but i must tell you John i have some junk coming for my car hehehe
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Bring it on!

Remeber there is a TII waiting in the shop too!
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Banzai,

Here's what I don't understand. You're going to do all this work, to make an auto-x car. But you don't follow any rules, so you're stuck in some mongo class, where you'll probably get your *** kicked because you're not running a super stripped, trick suspensioned, slick equipped *racecar*, so why are you doing it? I mean, you can tell the guys in CSP you kicked their ***, but it means nothing because you wouldn't be remotely legal..

Don't get me wrong, you can do what you want. I just come from the point of view that I want to win, otherwise why bother doing it? Anyway, good luck!

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Paul, I have played the stay legal in your class game. For a long time. I am building this car to enjoy. Don't get me wrong, every time I build to "play", there is always one mod that I want that is not legal and bumps me up a class. If I wanted to win FTD I would just build a F500 or a AM monster and get it over with. If I wanted to "spec" race I would build spec miata or spec first gen. This cars sole purpose is to make me happy. I may regret that later, but for now it keeps me amused. Sort-of like my 4" chop top TE72 Corolla with a 2.oL 2TG with a 10 point cage and back-half. Not legal in any sanctioning body.
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As long as your happy that should be all that matters. Your car still sounds like the good beginnings of an FP car. Have fun.
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Someday it my be a FP car. Thanks
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i hope it's a sprung 6 puck, because an unsprung would be overkill for that car. Do you plan on driving this on the street? Also if you ever look at the S4/S5 fuel rails, it's blatantly obvious that the S5 type is superior with regards to leaking fuel. and i thought that the S5 intake flowed more. It does on the TII so why would it be different for the N/A? Enjoy your car Banzai. In war all is fair.
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Yes it is a sprung 6 puk. In the Toyota described above it had a unsprung 3 puck sintered disc clutch on a 8 Lb flywheel!
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Originally posted by RX-7Impreza
with close to 4000 posts i would expecta little more than that from you....

the series 4 fuel rail is a cast aluminum rail w/ the puslation damper attached by way of a banjo bolt apparatus. in the end of the damper is an adjusment/retaining screw for the diaphragm, this is covered with a plastic cover. the screw in the s4 often works its way out and spits gas everywhere, once this happens it is pretty much useless and a severe firehazard.

the S5 rail on the other hand is steel w/ an integrated damper, i am sure it could fail but i havnt seen it yet, there is really nothing to fail/come loose in the S5 rails

so no they dont have the same failures that S4's do......

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Actually personally I have only ever seen the S5 and S6 PDs fail (S6 rails more than anything, and that is almost the same exact “steel” cap design as the S5), I am sure that the S4 fail as well, since it is so documented, but I myself wouldn't use a S5 or S6 rail/PD combo over a S4.

The S4 rail has the big distinct advantage of which that you can either replace the PD with a new one (for $50 less than a new S5 integrated PD/rail) if it is leaking or use Ted's Banjo bolt thing (for $100+ less).

But the well documented fact is that the S5 PD/rail fails in the same spectacular fashion as the S4 PD with no way to even check it (like for the diaphragm tension control screw falling loose under a cap) or replacing it as a regular maintenance item as you can with the S4 rail.

I did once think the way you did; that the S5 rail was the salvation of the FC fuel injection system, but then I did a little research and personally saw a couple of S5 and S6 cars burn to the ground because of a leak in the PD and saw the light.
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Originally posted by FPrep2ndGenRX7
Slow down Banzai. The first part of my reply was directed at RX-7Imprezza and the guys around him that don't give a %uck about the rules. I never said you were cheating. Its just that I've seen some people get really pissed when you tell them there car is not legal where they want to run it. Never said you couldn't run the car but your times don't count toward comparing them to anyone else. Your just kinda out there with no good way to see how you run against other similiarly prepared cars. I realize you don't like the SCCA and their rules and simply want to drive your car to the max. By all means have fun and be safe.

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i dont think you understood.... I DONT GIVE A %UCK ABOUT THE RULES, and i ESPECIALLY dont give a %uck about what class i run in. the point is that autocrossing isnt about winning to me, i dont care if you run me up against a fully modded ZO6, i will still have fun driving MY car the way I want it. us good ol' boys dont give a $hit what the sports car communist have to say

dont call me a cheater, i am not taking anything away from anyone and i never said i would lie about my mods so that i could get into a lower class

you communist

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Originally posted by fastrotaries
i hope it's a sprung 6 puck, because an unsprung would be overkill for that car. Do you plan on driving this on the street? Also if you ever look at the S4/S5 fuel rails, it's blatantly obvious that the S5 type is superior with regards to leaking fuel. and i thought that the S5 intake flowed more. It does on the TII so why would it be different for the N/A? Enjoy your car Banzai. In war all is fair.

S5 intake doesnt actually flow any mroe, it is just tuned properly for a stock port 13B, go any bigger with your porting and you slowly start to lose hp due to the lesser flow of the S5 manifold

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i am just saying that the S5/S^ fuel rail is more reliable than the s4, which it is, both of them can fail. but that is tru with every car part.

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