HOW tough are these rx7's
07-31-03, 01:02 AM
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HOW tough are these rx7's
about an hour ago, i took a turn at 70km/hour, not miles.. i usually take pretty controlled turns at around 60, but this time i figured id push 70.. Apperently the roads were a little wet.. well, guess what, i lost ******* control, and hit the breaks, and came head on with the curb, i figure i slowed down to about 40km/h b4 hitting the curb... I parked the car at a nearby hotel, and took a look at the damages.. they seem to be very minimal. my two front tires are either fucked, or just fucked due to them coming off the rims. im not to concerned about the rims and tires.. but i was wondering how tuff these cars are when it comes to hitting curbs, do you guys think im looking at some serious damage behind those tires..???? any thoughts or experience to prepare me for tommorow when i go take a look at my baby would be cool
07-31-03, 01:22 AM
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It all depends on how you hit the corner. If you hit it at 40km/h head on then I would think that the damage would be minimal but if your wheels were turned then you probably bent them in a bit. It doesn't take a whole lot to bend suspension to a new camber. Turn you wheels all the way to the left and right and check both times to see if the wheels contact the wheel well. Also just get out and see if they look even and straight to you. If all checks out go for a low speed drive and see if the car tracks straight on its own. There isn't a whole lot on the underside that you could've damaged unless you hit the bottom of the oil pan or perhaps the exhaust but a quick visual inspection would determine that. So basically just test it out and see if it still goes straight on its own. If not, then you're in for some trouble. My friend's 2004 Impreza was hit in the front driver's side fender in side by side traffic with about a 10 mph difference and the suspension work plus new rim and tire cost about $2,000. That was dealership though so if the suspension is screwed up it will probably only cost half that much.
07-31-03, 01:39 AM
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what im hoping on, is that its only the rims and tires that have the damage, and that they took most of the impact... the rims seem to be in pretty good shape still... and the more i think about it the more im thinking they can handle a head on hit at 40km/h based on my other cars i hit curbs with.. and i do think that the wheel might have been turned a little to the left b4 i hit curb, i cant remember how straight it was..
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07-31-03, 10:45 AM
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weight transfer. Imagin this : Your going thru a sweeping corner at 70+ mph. u decide your going a little too fast... remember your doing 70-around a corner, the weight of the car is going to be alittle off, you hit the brakes, it screwes up the weight bias of the car instantainiusly, and u loose control of the car,.. always stay in gear around "spirited corners" never tap the brakes in the middle of the corner, use the engine as your brakes.. Also, learn to feather your throttle. non of this on off throttle nonsense. And learn your power band, that way, when you induce a slide, you can use the power coming from the rear tires to counteract the slide
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07-31-03, 11:12 AM
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When in doubt both feet out. When in a spin both feet in. Thats for racing though...
When in doubt both feet out. When in a spin both feet in. Thats for racing though...
If the corner doesn't get sharper and you haven't lost it yet, you won't lose it. If you're allready on the brakes, stay on them while turning the car in.. if you're not on the brakes, DON'T TOUCH 'EM unless you are SURE that you're going off.... . otherwise just keep turning in .. If the car starts to plow you need to move weight to the front of the car, gently apply the brakes.. if the tail starts to step out release the brakes.... the trick is being gentle, not being jerky.
As far as toughnes... I put mine into a tree at ~30kph... nothing got pushed in more than an inch or so.
07-31-03, 12:09 PM
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When losing control, or going into a slide that you don't want, stay in gear let go of the gas. This way, the engine will slow the rear wheels. Basically, this will allow the front wheels to straighten out in front of the rear wheels, because they are going faster and nothing is slowing them down except for the car itself.
This technique is opposite to FWD techniques, where you need to stay on the gas in a turn in the same situation. On a FWD car, the car goes where the drive wheels are pointed, and the rest of the car just follows.
This technique is opposite to FWD techniques, where you need to stay on the gas in a turn in the same situation. On a FWD car, the car goes where the drive wheels are pointed, and the rest of the car just follows.
07-31-03, 12:20 PM
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i disagree, on FWD, u can let go of the gas and brake if u lose control in a turn. Most likely you're understeering, so the best thing to do is turn your wheels in the direction u wanna go and don't touch the gas or brake. I've slid many times in a FWD and that's the best technique i've seen, well at least in my car w/ a stock suspension setup.
One time, I slid sideways in the rain, I countersteered, and hit the gas, so the front carried my car to the opposite direction and my rear swung out and i fishtailed back and forth while i was trying to power my way out of the slide with the gas, luckily no cars were around.
One time, I slid sideways in the rain, I countersteered, and hit the gas, so the front carried my car to the opposite direction and my rear swung out and i fishtailed back and forth while i was trying to power my way out of the slide with the gas, luckily no cars were around.
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and the more i think about it the more im thinking they can handle a head on hit at 40km/h based on my other cars i hit curbs with.. and i do think that the wheel might have been turned a little to the left b4 i hit curb, i cant remember how straight it was..
07-31-03, 09:58 PM
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Naw see, what you should have done was countersteered like a SOB and kicked the *** end out, then threw your arm out the window. Then people would have thought you had mad drift style before you creamed that curb. LoL
07-31-03, 10:07 PM
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Naw see, what you should have done was countersteered like a SOB and kicked the *** end out, then threw your arm out the window. Then people would have thought you had mad drift style before you creamed that curb. LoL
Naw see, what you should have done was countersteered like a SOB and kicked the *** end out, then threw your arm out the window. Then people would have thought you had mad drift style before you creamed that curb. LoL
08-01-03, 12:51 AM
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what choise do i have, i turned my wheel to the left to make the left hand turn, my car turned a little, about 45 degrees... i was headed straight for that curb, and there was no stopping that.. the only thing i could do was hit the breaks, so i wouldnt hit the curb as fast
08-01-03, 01:05 AM
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its just car, and after hitting curb while out of control (sliding sideways to the curb) u will have some suspension damage
- in front, i bent tie rod and whole spindle
- in rear, i bent whole arm, lateral link, broke wheel and plastic swaybar link
Broken things and easy to find bent links are not problem, just replace it, but finding if arm or subframe is bent is bitch. By eye it seems to be ok, but while trying to get alignment, it will not work out....
http://rx7cz.net/photos/works20/
- in front, i bent tie rod and whole spindle
- in rear, i bent whole arm, lateral link, broke wheel and plastic swaybar link
Broken things and easy to find bent links are not problem, just replace it, but finding if arm or subframe is bent is bitch. By eye it seems to be ok, but while trying to get alignment, it will not work out....
http://rx7cz.net/photos/works20/
08-01-03, 01:32 AM
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eh higgi, how fast were you going.. ... I put my buddies anniversary rims on and in the front they come about an 1-2 inches to the back part of the wheel well. Now that could either be from the accident, or because thats how close they come, its the same distance on both sides, and im pretty sure the passenger side took most of the impact
08-01-03, 01:29 PM
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when you're sliding, your speedometer isn't telling you how fast you're going sideways 
there might be damage to the CV Joints, I had some damage when I hit the curb sideways in the snow last year
there might be damage to the CV Joints, I had some damage when I hit the curb sideways in the snow last year
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the weight of the car is going to be alittle off, you hit the brakes, it screwes up the weight bias of the car instantainiusly, and u loose control of the car,
And weight transfer is weight transfer. Doesn't matter if its coming from the brakes or the engine as long as nothing is locked up. Actually, I'd say brakes are better as your using all four tires and not just the rear tires.
And you can hit the brakes in the middle of the corner if you want/need, as long as your smooth, and as long as your not using more than your '100% traction.'
You have 100% traction. Do you want to use it to slow down or atempt to make a turn you instictivley know your not going to make? Maybe 80% to turn and 20% to brake? I'd say you probably made the right decision. Dealing with a excesivley high entrance speed in the wet is difficult.
Ever seen a G-G diagram?