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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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how i stopped short shifter rattle

ok, well i guess this only applies to the two-piece short shifters, like my Miata short shifter. this might not actually fix other people's shifter rattles, but i am just saying how i fixed mine, so it might help. who knows.

anyways, basically i realized that the source of the rattle was the fact the shifter was a two piece design. if the upper part wasn't on tight, i would notice that the shifter would rattle a lot. even after i tightened it there would be rattle at higher rpms.
i concluded that the threaded joint on the two parts was the cause. for some reason there is some metal-on-metal vibration.

so, taking a cue from the stock shifter where the upper section is isolated by rubber, i figured i would try filling the junction with silicon rtv to create an "absorption barrier" (i can't really think of a better term right now, sorry).

1) put a whole bunch of rtv on the lower section thread


2) put rtv around the bottom part of the upper section


3) wait about 20 minutes for the rtv to get a little dried, then thread the top section back on, and hand-tighten. wait 30 minutes, then put a towel around and clamp down with vice grips, and tighten further.



so that seemed to do work for me. no more shifter rattle. don't know if this will work for others, but it is worth a try.
and yes, that is an OEM shift **** from a 5-speed RX-8.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Good Idea.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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I didn't know there was a 5 speed rx8... just automatics and 6 speed manuals!
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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i jb welded mines
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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I didn't know there was a 5 speed rx8... just automatics and 6 speed manuals!
yeah, i believe only in Europe, Japan, and Australia. it comes with the lower powered 4-port RX-8 motor.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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This, or something like it, I could Imagine in the archive....(throwing it out there)
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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lol get a 6-speed **** just for looks LOL
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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i should mention that i thought of using something like thread locker, and xboxthug13b mentioned jb weld, but the the thing with using the silicone rtv is that it remains flexible and gives a soft bushing-like barrier to absorb some of the vibrations between the metal surfaces.

it would be cool if someone else could try this out and see if it works for them.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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great job! I used plumbers tape on mine
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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When were the two piece threaded?


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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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I got my short shifter a few months ago...it's threaded but then, it's for a miata.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Me too. Although mine doesn't rattle at all. Maybe different companies have there **** together better?
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
When were the two piece threaded?


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What are you asking exactly? I said the Miata short shifters are a threaded two-piece design. I am not quite sure about what other short shifters are like, just that what i did applies to two-piece threaded ones.

You and your one-sentence posts
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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lol get a 6-speed **** just for looks LOL
yeah until someone borrows your car and shifts in to reverse on the highway
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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yeah until someone borrows your car and shifts in to reverse on the highway
That's a good point. But what 7 owner lets people borrow their car?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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I just installed my short shifter and have the same problem...i ll try your suggestions mate...
Thanx!!!!
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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That's a good point. But what 7 owner lets people borrow their car?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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just an update, i started to get a little bit of rattle again. i'm not quite sure why. damn short shifters...

but, what i did still helped compared to the way it was before.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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this is a good idea but i also read somewhere else that you're trans mounts could be cousing the vibrations. i dunno how much truth there is to that but i figured id throw it out there, maybe sombody else has heard the same. i read it somewhere in the old how-to thread for using the miata short shifter in an fc.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Any updates on AaronCake's no-noise short shifter project-a-ma-bob?
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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i haven't heard anything new from him lately. i'm sure he is busy working on all sorts of stuff though.

and yeah, tranny mounts could be possible. but i'm not about replace them just to maybe get rid of a little noise.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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I have no rattle at all...
I ghetto fixxed the rattle thing by doing this....
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...07#post6116007


Sounds ridiculous but it works so far!!!!!
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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yeah until someone borrows your car and shifts in to reverse on the highway
You can't. Reverse has a lock-out so that reverse gear remains locked until you return to neutral completely. Even then, it won't really do it. I have to slap the stick sideways and then put it in reverse on really really cold days.
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Greetings
What you have to do in order to fix this problem, is to find an elastic heavy duty cylidrincal cover for the spherical bottom.I found something like this in my friends workshop.
The outer diameter of this cover must be 18-18,5mm in order to fit perfectly( that is correct if you havent removed the stock white plastic ring.Then you just install this cover on the shifter and then in the gear box.
Now my shifter doesnt rattle at all and i believe that it is even better than the stock shifter.
good luck
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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yeah, i believe the source of the rattle comes from the bottom ball hitting against the tranny shifter bore. i think you are on the right track trying to get more isolation so there isn't metal-to-metal contact.
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