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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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How to get main pulley nut off (already tried the normal method)

Ok, so now I am trying to get the main pulley nut off. I already got the pulleys off, but I am having problems with the 19mm nut on the e-shaft. How tightly is this thing put on? I had the flywheel stopper bar on and was trying to get the nut off using my socket wrench and a breaker bar when suddenly I hear a pop and it moves. When I went to move it some more, I discover that it actually broke my damn socket wrench. Apparently, I had to apply so much torque that it actually stripped the socket wrench out. This was a husky socket wrench, too, not some cheap-*** one.
So now what do I do? My wrenchs wont fit on it because its somewhat recessed, and I don't want to get another socket wrench just for it to braek again. Any suggestions?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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well you're gonna need another socket regardless, whether its heavier duty or not. try heating up the seat of the bolt with a propane torch before trying to break it loose with the bar this time.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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I don't have a propane torch, unfortunately. Maybe a neighbor has one. As for not wanting to break another socket wrench, I was wondering if there was another tool that could be used in place of a socket wrench.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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yeah... its calle dbreaker bar
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Oh dude... The best method:

Put the 19mm socket over the E-shaft bolt with a long'ish breaker-bar attached. Rest the breaker-bar over on the battery side of the engine bay, make sure it's kind of wedged in place, resting against the frame-rail/whatever. Hook up your battery.

Get into your car, put the key in the ignition and give the starter *one* split-second crank. The starter will break the E-shaft bolt loose immediately. This works every-time with no negative effects.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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yeah... its calle dbreaker bar
Oh, ok. Duh. I didn't get much sleep last night, baby's killing me. Looks like its another trip to sears for me....
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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you can find impact sockets at sears, they are more durable than regular chrome sockets.

the starter method doesn't always work, i have had the nuts cinch down quite tight over time. be lucky these aren't FD front pulley bolts, those bastards get TIGHT!
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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I just went to sears and got a 1/2 inch breaker bar and a 3/8 adapter so I can use the 19mm socket I already have. It sheared off the head of the adapter. So now I'm going to go BACK and get a 1/2 inch 19mm socket. Grrrr
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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I destroyed 2 sets of Craftsman tools trying to get an e-shaft bolt... Broke 3 "breaker bars"... lol

Best bet is to torch it and hit it with an impact (3/4 drive preferably)...
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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1/2 will break... Don't buy it trust me... Save yourself the trouble and buy a small propane torch...
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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i use 1/2" drive on all the large bolts except the flywheel nut. *shrug*

but the key word i used earlier is "torch".
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Yea that's true... The 1/2's I broke were before I actually put the torch to it... But then I hit it with the 3/4 truck impact anyways...
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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I sheared off the impact one. Guess its time to go get a torch..... I needed one anyway to redo my grounds.
Edit: How exactly do you do that, just heat it up for a little while and take it off?

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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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I sheared off the impact one. Guess its time to go get a torch..... I needed one anyway to redo my grounds.
Edit: How exactly do you do that, just heat it up for a little while and take it off?
you gotta heat it up for a while... I used a 600ft/lb gun and it still didnt take it off without using the torch.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Get it red... Then throw the impact to it...
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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I used 1000ft/lb gun with a 1500 gallon dual-compressor setup and it wouldn't come off without a torch... Didn't shear anything off that time though... lol
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Propane torch or mapp gas torch. Helps to break down the locktite. Heat it up for a few good minutes then put a socket and driver on it and give it a good whack with a heavy hammer or use a breaker bar.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Ok, I got a propane torch and a 1/2 inch breaker with 19mm socket. Do you heat it up then immediately take it off, or let ot cool a bit?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Immediately... While it's still red!
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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I got if off!! I kept it on there for 2 or 3 minutes and it never got red, so I just tried it. It came off without too much problems. Thanks for all the help.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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What'd we tell ya??? You'd have to leave it on there for a pretty long time for it to get red... longer than I'd like.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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i actually had to weld my flywheel to a metal table and get a 5 foot breaker bar to get that thing off. wasnt planning on reusing the flywheel so i said wtf.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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^^^ thats hardcore, now this is just me but i'd think that if your getting the nut that hot that it would be hot enough to ignite something.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Well, I made sure that I had wiped down the area first. I also didn't get it red hot, I just left it on there for 2 or 3 minutes. It worked though. Came of with relative ease.
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