i just junked one a few weeks ago

 

If you junked it, I'm guessing it wasn't in very good shape. I have found plenty of shells, but that doesn't do me much good unfortunately.

 

I'll keep my eyes open for you. After all the talk there has been about it in STS, I'd love to see someone actually give it a real attempt. Do you ever run Philly events?

 

I think I saw your car in a video in a autox course, cam was in a mustang.
You are on tristate right? The colored rims is something you cant forget

I was also looking for a GTUs to run sts but after months of looking I quit, and bought a GTUs with turbo swap lol

 

I have a GTUs but just like alot them its a beat up shell.

 

I swear that better have been a big POS or i would have bought it from you.

 

Tristate? I've only been home for a few months and haven't quite assimilated into the car scene here yet. I'm gonna guess it was my car, though I don't know which mustang it would have been, was it at the finger lakes tour?

Back on topic, that seems to be the trend with GTUs's sadly. Finding a auto-x-able chassis is going to be tricky since most of them are beat to hell. I'd really like to see someone go forward with this idea, on a national style course that extra 30-40 horsepower (over a miata) could be a factor.

 

I used to run at the Ripken events. I tend to stick with the AI / SCCA events at FedEx.

 

Contact Rishie (ardt2 ) at Autornd. He has had a low milage red GTU-s for years. Show room quality. I know he was selling it there for awhile. I'll dig up some pics. He is a vendor here on the forum.
Thanks Robert

https://www.rx7club.com/members/ard-t2-1620/

 

Jesus, that blows! Do you know when they changed it? I haven't ran STS since '08, but they let me get away with my LSD, and a S5 engine (in a s4). I wonder if it's just a local thing on how strict they are. In that case, keep your eye out especially in locals/etc. I bought 3 of them within about a 400 mile radius that were just listed locally and they had no idea what it was.

 

You sir are correct. Getting a s4 and swapping diffs will bump you into the next class. The GTUs is a great platform for STS, but like you had said before, its a little on the heavy side.

 

If you're willing to travel, then yes, you can still find a GTUs (It's not mine).

I'm also planning on specing my GTUs for STS. I think that while it might not be nationally competitive, it will be a fun car for the class.

 

Not true; the factory electric sunroof was optional on the '88 GTU. (See scan of '88 brochure below.) Most I've seen have it including mine. It was also optional on the '87 Sport:

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...21&postcount=3

 

They sure did make almost everthing optional back then. I've never come accross a sport with one, nor did either of the GTU I had. Funny that most GTUs I've come accross have the dealership sunroof installed, 2 of the 3 I've had came with it. God damn dealerships.

 

I want to say it was sometime around 2001 when update / backdate disappeared from street touring.

Regardless, clutch type LSDs have never been allowed in STS / STS2. Only STX and beyond.

 

Personally, I love my GTUs. I've gone the route of building a “GTUs clone” of out an 86 Sport. IE: S5 engine, 4.3 gears, etc. In the end, the sport was lighter by +100 lbs but the chassis also flexed more. Driving the S4 and the GTUs back to back, I found that there was a considerable difference even though the suspensions were prepared identically. (Racing beat springs, RB Sway bars, KYB AGX shocks, Poly bushings) In my opinion, the body reinforcements that went into the S5 cars make them better candidates for AutoX.

As for STS and legality... I guess it really depends on how competitive you are. If you’re dominating, they will take a closer look. But who really knows how to check for a viscous LSD vs. a clutch type? Would tech ever find it? Guess it depends on who you pissed off and who wants to protest your car.

As for finding a mint GTUs, they are out there. As an owner of a pristine GTUs with all the original parts in the garage, I have a sale price just like the next GTUs owner. The question I ask is how serious are you about owning one?

 

Well, I would be running the car nationally and wouldn't want to take any chances. I also wouldn't ever knowingly field an illegal car, especially one that was illegal because of something that would be a performance advantage (i.e. clutch type diff in place of a viscous).

I don't need a mint condition car and I'm not willing to pay for one. I don't even mind something with high miles or with no motor. I'll end up building my own motor for the class and going through every suspension component anyway. I just don't want a rusty shell that's missing the trans, diff, or significant portions of interior which is what I've found so far.

There are a couple craigslist ads I found that look promising. So we'll see. I'm still not sure this is a great idea anyway. Now that I know what the top Miatas and CRXs weigh and make for power, I'm a bit scared.

 

I got my GTUs in Rockville MD.
The guy had my 89' and another black one. Mine had a blown engine and after showing up and having him talk about having second thoughts since they're so hard to find around here I finally took it home for $1600. I can give you his forum name if you want to PM me, but I doubt he'll come off that black one even though its been sitting in his driveway for years with a blown engine.

 

I'm not sure why you're so dead set on being 100% legal. Any serious racer will tell you, "It's only cheating if you get caught."

Now I've never been involved with national SCCA racing. My background is in circle track racing in "Stock" divisions. That being said, I've never met a racing team that operated within the exact letter of the rules. Even Nascar crews cheat. Everyone is looking for a competitive advantage, even if that means doing things that wouldn't be considered 100% legal. *wink wink* To each their own I guess.

As for being scared? Racing a GTUs in STS, you're going to have a hell of a time keeping up with the Miatas and the CRXs. Even the Z3's are a very tough bunch. All those cars have GREAT aftermarket support. I'm not saying it’s impossible to be competitive in an GTUs, but since you're buying and building this car specifically for this class, why limit yourself so early on?

For someone like me who already has a GTUs that is ready for STS class racing, then it makes sense for me to run with what I already have. If I had to buy a car, build an engine, install a suspension, collect spare parts, etc, then I would probably go Miata. You’ll get more for your dollar.

 

National ST has had it share of scandal already, if you were going to bend the rules a bit, ST is not the class at the moment.

I've heard enough national level guys talk about the GTUs as a possible class killer that I am inclined to believe it at least has possibilities. Stock for stock, its already 30-40 hp up on a miata or CRX, and rotaries respond better to exhausts and other mild tuning better than either engine as well. Its quite possible that you could be up 40+ hp over a national level car, and that is a big deal on an open national style course. They do have us on weight, but we can fit a bit more tire without killing our gearing. If it was a totally sure thing, somebody would have tried it already, but I think its worth a serious shot. If you want to just run a miata, bump to CSP, thats virtually a spec class.

Also, that extra power might make it a stronger ProSolo car.

 

Next year I want to be more competitive than the local Non SCCA endorsed AutoX group. For my GTUs I have a Reman engine with pinapple inserts, full exhaust(It has a cat), Ground control coilovers with Tokico illuminas and Strut tower braces and R-comps on mustang wheels. I am in the process of swapping in an NB(01') Miata trans as well.
Are my mods going to dump me ina class where I'm not going to be competitive?

 

I'm guessing that transmission is going to put you in a ridiculous class probably street mod (the class that I'm in) or maybe a class higher...

rules: http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_R...Solo_Rules.pdf

 

^ and ^^

Why do you think I'm building a Spec-7... The rules are simple... Ditch the interior, use Tokico shocks, RB springs, and ST sway bars. Everything else has to be stock.

Ian and his Miata tranny and Myk and his Standalone and hybrid turbo... Lawlz.
The mods are gonna be like. "WTF, h4X!"

 

If I didn't think the car could win I wouldn't be contemplating a build.

There may be other folks cheating, but I'm not willing to go that route, so this will be a legit build

 

I can attest to the pristineness, but it has nothing on mine when it comes to loudness! But then again, it was YEARS ago when I saw it....

For the rules, seems a GTUs is the only RX7 to go with, although those damn Miata's are going to be a nightmare. FC's really are kind of a fat pig for that kind of class. I'll keep a look out for some, I'm down to only one myself. Though I made that little 's' stand for sequential.