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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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ground control coilovers

ok, i have GC coilovers here, GC caster camber plates and want to put it together with my tokico shocks (non adjustable) which i have on car right now with ST springs..

anyone got detailed/pictures writeup for assembling GC coilovers with tokico or other springs and caster/camber plates ?

any cutting/welding involved ?

any info will help...

thanks

yeah....and how do i know what spring rate i got ?

and how to set it up once on car ?

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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 08:55 AM
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i would take this to the suspension cat. those people get there are plenty of people that answer this question daily...and i think there is cutting involved but its more like grinding so the sleeve will fit but i dont know jack....how much you want for the s.t. springs
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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to where ? man, i`m in CZ, there are no suspension shops or what u have in mind....
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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I have the GC coilovers on KYB struts w/ Tein pillowball mounts/camber plates. I don't have pics right now but I'll have my digital camera in a few days so I'll post it when I can...
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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cool, anyone else ?
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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The spring rate is on the spring along with, I think, length. You can order different spring rates from GC. I had a shop put mine on and I believe they had to trim/mill something on the front Illuminas to get the sleeve over the shock body.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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The sleeves fit over the the strut body without machining or grinding. Put the "O" rings GC supplies on the strut body under the sleeves to keep the sleeves centered and prevent rattling. To remove the top mounting block you will need a spring compressor.

Some people have experienced ride height problems when using the stock lower spring mount. Depending on the spring rate and length, there may not be enough travel on collar. But if you use the camber plates on top you should be OK.


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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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GC keeps ******* with the part numbers....

"GC" (length of spring).(spring diameter).(rate)
Rate is in kg-mm, so your fronts are 6.6kg-mm and the rears are 4.4kg-mm.

1 kg-mm = 55.88 lb-in
6.6kg-mm = 368.8lb-in
4.4kg-mm = 245.9lb-in
Looks like 375/250 (close enough)...


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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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GC150.64.66 front
GC200.64.66 rear
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by hIGGI
GC150.64.66 front
150mm length
64mm diameter
6.6kg-mm spring rate

GC200.64.66 rear
200mm length
64mm diameter
You sure it isn't "44"?
4.4kg-mm spring rate



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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 09:27 PM
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got me..its "44"

anyways, how should i set it up high/low ? and how much messing with it will affect my alignment ?
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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I have a very similar set up. I sent my adjustable Illuminias to GC so they could modify to fit. I believe they had to alter the top of the strut to fit in the mount but I am not sure exactly what they did. Decide on what you think you want the ride height to be. Try to make the ride height close on both ends. Then get a complete corner balance and alignment at the same time. You will need to have everything in/out of the car that you want for the handling to be optimized. (i.e. amount of gas etc. ) You or ballast equal to your weight will need to be in the car when this happens. Also, the best alignment shops (people who also race) will need to know what kind of racing you do. GC will pass on some alignment recommendations if you ask. Watch it, optimum negitive camber for racing is too much for the street. You may want to set it for the street and have an alternitive mark on the the camber plates and rear link for racing. Keep in mind that toe will probably change when you change camber. Good luck.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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thanks, but i would like to know some real numbers, like how much turns of those rotating sleeves or what is it from lowest position etc....
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 03:27 AM
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anyone got pictures of mounted CC plates ? i don`t know how should i mount them (which one is left/right etc..)
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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installed :

http://rx7cz.net/photos/works24/
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