90 gtu bought the car and the oil pan/ front cover gasket were leaking replaced both of them, started it up and my cat started glowing. so i replaced the exhaust and i had the same problem i corected my timin installed plugs wires o2 sens fuel filter checked fuel pressure it was all good, and the exhaust is still getting really hot, im told a glowing exhaust can either be a bad cat or a lean condition, but the cat is brand new so i figure its lean i cant find any vaccum leaks and no one has been able to help me out, just lookin for ideas please help!

 

You still running emissions? Have an AFR gauge? Idling fine? Need more info.

NORMALLY it is the cat and/ or lean conditions (both, usually), but if variables a' 'b' and 'c' are taken care of, then more info is needed to help diagnose.

 

did you set the timing properly? did you take the proper actions to keep the front needle bearings from falling during the front cover re-gasket?

 

no afr it idles prettty good and im not sure how high my emisions are but its all stock.

 

You mean rich. Do your plugs smell like fuel.

 

no lean conditions will cause very high exhaust temp. the car runs pretty damn good aside from the high exhaust temp but i cant for the life of me figure it out, im gonna start messing with my tps when i get off work. i would love any ideas that could help me out

 

When a car runs rich all the fuel is not ignited by the plugs so the fuel that isn't combusted ends up doing so in the exhaust which causes the high temperatures. Lean conditions can cause your problem but it's more likely at full throttle as opposed to idling. You need to check the timing, see if your plugs are firing properly especially the leading plugs and also check your compression as a blown apex seal can cause this problem as well.

 

i did a compp check it seemed good. but my plugs smelled alot like fuel, im thinking im running rich i know im getting spark, but what else can cause this im really stumped!

 

When checking the timing it means more than just checking for basic spark. Look at post #99 and so on in the link below for an easy to understand illustration. Higher than normal fuel pressure might lead to an overly rich condition as well.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/86-tii-swap-wont-start-but-really-wants-887302/page4/

 

ok cool im gonna take a look at my cas without the cover on. thanks for the info

 

Yeah, you probably have your timing way off.
The 'Stab" method for the CAS never works.

This is the post that Satch was telling you to look at.

 

yea i looked it up when i installed my cas i just stabbed it in there and used a timing light. gonna take of the cover and check it out after work i will be so happy if thats my problem!! running waaaaay toooo riiiichh! thanks guys

 

the S5's are far more touchy about setting timing than the S4's, they need to meet more requirements before the timing will be ready to set to base timing, unlike the S4's which you can basically just idle down to below 1k RPMs and they automatically use the base timing map figure.

and yes, running rich will cause the exhaust to glow, not the other way around while out of load. check timing, fuel pressure, TPS adjustment and check for vacuum leaks with a can of carb cleaner.

 

thanks i got the day off today so after i get out of this bed im gonna give it a look.

 

I'll wager your CAS is one tooth off to the retarded side. Been there, done that.

 

well i just set it like in the picture and i started it up and it wont idle lower than 2500 rpms and now theres just a tiny spot on my cat that is glowing. but i cnt get idle lower. im wondering what else to test!

 

The idle probably had to be set abnormally high to get it to idle with the timing that far retarded. Now being set closer to where it should be it will idle very high. And all the fuel being burnt in the exhaust due to the timing problem may have nuked your cat causing it to be blocked by it's own fill, thus causing a hot spot....

Just a possibility.

I would take the cat off, for inspection, and put in a straight pipe and get the car running properly before putting the cat back on.

 

ok i was also thinking mabe theres a spot of fuel or something stuck in there

 

so how will i get my idle to go down?

 

Follow all the FSM procedures for setting timing, idle, and TPS. In that order. Then do them all again, twice.

 

Your timing is still a bit off and you'll need a timing light so you can adjust the CAS in a manner that will bring it into spec. Engine should be warmed up to do this.

 

Just sent you a personal message. Thanks!