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Old 01-20-03, 09:25 PM
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Finding a complete 13BT...

I'm planning a little ahead on the turbo swap I'll be doing on the convertible this Spring. What are my best options for sourcing a complete 13BT?

Unfortunately, I don't have a line on a wrecked S5 Turbo II, so unless somebody can help me out with that that isn't an option. Would Jap-spec be the way to go? If so, where can I get one? Is Dave still selling them?

Also, about the rear end... will a Turbo II differential bolt into the n/a subframe assembly or will I have to replace the entire subframe to bolt it in?

I've been dreaming and talking about doing this for a long time, but up until now I haven't had the time or money to complete such a project. The end goal is to have a "like new" turbo convertible. Which means refreshing the interior, paint, and suspension.

Any advice on how I should go about this from turbo-swap veterans?
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I'm planning a little ahead on the turbo swap I'll be doing on the convertible this Spring.
Ill be doing mine very shortly. I have about everything I need, just need spare time to put it all together...

Would Jap-spec be the way to go?
All bullshit aside, I dont like jspecs as a source of a runnign engine. I like them as rebuild cores, or to part out. What I would do is get out there and find the cheapest s5 jspec available, somewhere like nippon-motors or the like; they used to go for $750 all day w/no warranty. Then, use that for a rebuild core; do it yourself, have me do it, have someone else do it, but dont buy one from anyone intending to use it as-is. Just my 2 cents...

will a Turbo II differential bolt into the n/a subframe assembly
Bolts right in. You have to have the matching axles as well; NA diff's are narrower, thus both axles are longer. T2 diffs are wider, thus both axles are narrower.

Any advice on how I should go about this from turbo-swap veterans
ON an s5, if you get the proper wiring harness, it is basically plug and play, as opposed to s4's which require a bit more modding of wiring. Here is the basic list of what you'll need; dont forget FCD and exhaust considerations, unless you're keeping the exhaust stock you'll need the fcd, and dont forget youll need a downpipe...

www.rotaryresurrection.com/t2conversion2.htm
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Originally posted by hypntyz7


ON an s5, if you get the proper wiring harness, it is basically plug and play, as opposed to s4's which require a bit more modding of wiring. Here is the basic list of what you'll need; dont forget FCD and exhaust considerations, unless you're keeping the exhaust stock you'll need the fcd, and dont forget youll need a downpipe...

www.rotaryresurrection.com/t2conversion2.htm
Thanks for the advice. As far as what I need to actually do the swap, that's not a big problem. There are a million and a half posts around here and all kinds of info.

You touched on a spot that I was a little iffy about. I was a little nervous about buying a J-spec engine and expecting it to run right out of the box, so I was also trying to figure out where I could go to get a super cheap, not grenaded 13BT long block to rebuild and perhaps port a little before I install.

I was gonna purchase a full Racing Beat system right off the bat, so an FCD will be necessary. I've read a little bit about wiring the engine through some searches and from what I understand I can use my n/a harness that's already in the car with a little modification, is this correct?

Other than that, the whole process seems to be fairly straight forward for a S5 car. As soon as I get my R/T back on the road so I have transportation I'm going to start ordering stuff. I'm kind of excited about doing this, but a little intimidated by the whole thing.
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I would say, just go J-spec, because they are a cheap way to get a COMPLETE engine, IMO if you are doing a na/t2 swap Jspec is the only way to go unless you have a t2 parts car. However, you want a like new turbo vert so you should get the engine rebuilt. My Jspec runs great, I must have got lucky.
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Originally posted by Mark'sMazda
I would say, just go J-spec, because they are a cheap way to get a COMPLETE engine, IMO if you are doing a na/t2 swap Jspec is the only way to go unless you have a t2 parts car. However, you want a like new turbo vert so you should get the engine rebuilt. My Jspec runs great, I must have got lucky.
This whole project is going to be fairly pricey so I may as well include an extra few bucks for a rebuild. That and a friend of mine is dying to get the chance to crack open a rotary engine. I'm not so excited about it, but I would definitely like to do it.

How much power can I expect the stock turbo to push before it runs out of breath? I'd like to not have to worry about upgrading it for a while... or at least until I get the paint and suspension finished.
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