Aight,

Most cars can't handle strait line racing, the rx-7 being the best of them all. Meaning lots of stopped launches equal faster mushing of one's tranny. Other cars can handle it better however, most street cars can't. These cars, to the contrary are corner killers. I walk all over turbo rx-7's with my N/a cause the turbo just gives you a mentality that you are faster than an N/a. It is proven that a N/a enters and moves through a corner faster than a Turbo. This is equaled by less breaking, less weight, less worries. However, the turbo equals better accel out of a corner. Furthermore, tell me on a Road course = lots of corners and few LONG straitaways do you ever hit the full potential of your turbo? Never. N/A's are great for road racing and auto x. You wanna mash gears get a turbo and since you can't drive go drag like the rest of the afully intelectily advanced people ;)

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gefunk right thats why all the f1 cars were turbo becuase n/a cars are faster. why are they n/a now, cause they were getting dangerously fast

let me rephrase what i was saying earlier, n/a street car slow, n/a race cars can get damn fast, n/a rotories are kicking ass in all motor classes in different import ciruits many 1st gen cars are running 10s

let me rephrase what i was saying earlier, n/a street car slow, n/a race cars can get damn fast, n/a rotories are kicking ass in all motor classes in different import ciruits many 1st gen cars are running 10s

Yo,


Ask the drivers of the:

Integra GSR
Nissan 300ZX (NA)
Toyota Celica GT-S
Toyota MR2 Spyder
VW VR6 GTI
VW 1.8T GTI

That I passed at Thunderhill Raceway thought I was "incredibly slow" in my NA RX-7.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=104171

Can they beat me at the strip? Sure! Can they beat me on a track, or in the hills? Hell no!

I'll take handling over straightline performance any day.

Kevin
1989 GTUs "Real skill is when you have to turn the wheel..."

Just a comment for the fool(s) who said that the N/A was incredibly slow. What the hell are you thinking, for a 5 grand car (canadian dollar) you're getting one of the fastest N/A rides I can think of. My N/A with only a few minor mods, (exhaust) can hang with 5.0's, camaro's, firebirds and blow those pathetic Civic's and Probes right outa the water. Ya, it might be slow in comparrison to the FD or a higher end 20 grand plus car but for your dollar, your getting a very quick car that looks pretty damn sexy 2!

Well bully for you..you can hang with a stock Mustang...whooptie-fuckin-doo.

Don't get me wrong here, I love the handling and styling of all FC's, but the straight line performance just isn't there in the NA cars. Like it or not, straight line acceleration is a big part of performance.

Yo,


Nick, I bet you my car is faster than yours in a straight line!!

*wink*

Kevin
1989 GTUs "Bwahaha!"

your just saying that cause your car is slow

ya 5 grand to hang with stock mustangs, 3600 bucks and im hanging with ls1 vettes on the freeway my high et for my trap speed is only becuase my car would bog after the 60' when the tires would hook up

DAMN YOU!!!

*waving fist*



:D

Yo,

Nick, you know I'm just playing. So finish up your rebuild and get some better fuel maps!

For that sbertolone guy, yeah, you're right. I only say that because pressing down on the gas pedal and shifting is FAR more skill intensive than oh...autocrossing...or driving fast on a mountain road.

*cough* Yeah, you're right.

Kevin
1989 GTUs "Saw a 4Runner that would eat you at the strip...it must be better than your TII."

man, this thread just turned into a "my cock is bigger than yours" contest. relative to a TII, an n/a is slower and harder to get power out of, but so what. that gives you extra money to spend on other mods. maybe someone doesn't want the lag of a turbo and would rather have the immediate power of a n/a. the point is, this battle over n/a and turbo goes all the way to the audi and panoz prototype cars. although audi often wins, the turbo is not the only reason.do what you want. on a track, both can be lethal given the right driver.

:rofl::rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

but is it as reliable??

:rofl::rofl:

just cause my car has a turbo on it, and i like drag racing i obvisouly must not know how to turn the wheel, ya cause my suspension and tires really help me launch, cause you know racing on mountain roads with some one else that has a car that could keep up happens so often. autocrossing sounds fun but i've never done it.

there's nothing like it. you should try. come on, everyone's doing it.

all the auto cross events had finished here in MI when i had gotten my car

Yo,


Nick, it's a TRD supercharger so it must be reliable! *grin* That comment wasn't directed at you, but at Mr. 13.672.

The reason I said it is because of the myopic 1/4 mile vision that a lot of people have here.

I saw a TRD supercharged 4Runner pull a 12.8 1/4 mile time. If I use the "1/4 mile is king" world view, unless your TII can do better than 12.8, that 4Runner is "better" than your car. Does that make sense? It doesn't to me.

That's my point. So what if the 4Runner does a 12.8 pass? Can it handle the twisties? Can it brake, can it autocross?

That 4Runner will /never/ be "better" than any RX-7 in my mind, because it can't handle. I put more importance on a sportscar's handling, than it's straightline ability. Call me crazy!

Kevin
1989 GTUs "And the 4Runner was an automatic as well..."

Damn I missed another Turbo vs. NA war!

Who won this time?

hmmm... this picture is somewhat fitting, and I didn't feel like starting a new thread, so...

http://www.ex-ssi.com/temp/TFATF_800.jpg

have fun! "Smoke 'em!"

Yo,


It's not the turbo vs. NA thing, I never brought that up....oh wait...I kind of razzed Nick about his car not moving. But that's beside the point, we always tease each other.

I think it's the drag vs. handling war, which settles into the Turbo vs. NA war since (it seems) most turbo guys are into the quickness, while the NA guys are into the twisties.

It really boils down the assinine statement that NA RX-7's are "incredibly slow". Most people took offense to that. Including myself. *grin*

Kevin
1989 GTUs "Can't we all just get along?"

hahaha
the funny thing is.. the NA guys are saying that their car can handle..

the beauty of T2`s is that they do both.. fast and handle...

that to me makes it a sports car - rather than a sheep in wolf`s clothing..

sorry to hear that, sbertolone. it will probably be a while until you see an autocross seeing as you're in michigan and it's that time of year. it's not so much the racing that's fun, but the people there are awesome; always willing to help and give tips.