ex crew chief for abel ibbara
01-24-03, 06:09 AM
#1
Full Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: cali
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ex crew chief for abel ibbara
well i met the crew chief and what a nice guy told me lots about abel's motor and how it was set up and everything. its a 20b on a normal streetport running 20 pounds of boost with nitrous(havent used yet because of traction problems) running around 1300bhp easily but of course most of u already probably knew that. well abel's old r100 runs 50pounds of boost on a 13b i forget what kind of porting. the crew chief also had a truck which ran 8.75 easily all motor in his driveway of course in a trailer. He was building my friends 69 camaro rs there estimating 9 second runs with it:S. Also he says he'll talk to abel about bringing the rx to my school which would be sweet ***. He also seemed very intrested in my car(maybe he'll help me build it) anyway thats all i gotta say for now my girlfriends gonna kick my *** when she figures out i ditched her to see a car guy haha
01-24-03, 03:41 PM
#6
Power seems to be far fetched...
Marcos tuned a customers street car to 1025 rwhp @ 25psi on a streetported 20B using a T80 turbocharger.
1300 rwhp @ 20 psi (streetported) sounds kind of far fetched.. but who knows, this is one of the top drag racers in the world. I think that power must have been made with the nitrous spraying, and even then seems pretty high, b/c a streetported 20b with the correct turbo usually would make about 700-850 rhwp at that boost level, meaning a 525 shot of nitrous like KNONFS stated! It just seems far fetched.
Guys like Dennis Marquis make that kind of power on peripheral ported 20b's running even more boost than that.
I know he's either streetported or bridgeported though, because the car retains the factory intake manifold if I'm not mistaken from the pictures I have. The power numbers would make more sence on a bridgeported motor, and even then would be VERY impressive!
If he IS turning out that much power with the streetport, just imagine how much more he can make by P-porting that engine and doing some serious mods to it!!!
I believe the R100 was peripheral ported btw, but I could be wrong. That is one of the all time crowd favourites still competing in import drag racing these days! So cool!
1300 rwhp @ 20 psi (streetported) sounds kind of far fetched.. but who knows, this is one of the top drag racers in the world. I think that power must have been made with the nitrous spraying, and even then seems pretty high, b/c a streetported 20b with the correct turbo usually would make about 700-850 rhwp at that boost level, meaning a 525 shot of nitrous like KNONFS stated! It just seems far fetched.
Guys like Dennis Marquis make that kind of power on peripheral ported 20b's running even more boost than that.
I know he's either streetported or bridgeported though, because the car retains the factory intake manifold if I'm not mistaken from the pictures I have. The power numbers would make more sence on a bridgeported motor, and even then would be VERY impressive!
If he IS turning out that much power with the streetport, just imagine how much more he can make by P-porting that engine and doing some serious mods to it!!!
I believe the R100 was peripheral ported btw, but I could be wrong. That is one of the all time crowd favourites still competing in import drag racing these days! So cool!
01-24-03, 03:49 PM
#7
Here is a picture of Abel's engine bay. Sorry about the page crease (sp?) it was over the fold in a magazine.
Notice the stock intake manifold!?!? Almost unheard of in pro-class drag racing!!
Notice the stock intake manifold!?!? Almost unheard of in pro-class drag racing!!
Trending Topics
01-24-03, 08:38 PM
#8
Re: Power seems to be far fetched...
Originally posted by Bridgeported
1300 rwhp @ 20 psi (streetported) sounds kind of far fetched.. but who knows, this is one of the top drag racers in the world.
1300 rwhp @ 20 psi (streetported) sounds kind of far fetched.. but who knows, this is one of the top drag racers in the world.
IMHO
01-24-03, 09:09 PM
#9
Full Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: cali
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
perhaps he has a great crew chief who is all knowing lol well he said its running 1300 hp with 20 psi streetported. if they ran any higher he would have more traction problems than he already does. they cant use nitrous because of traction problems. i mean how do u know he just doesnt have one badass 20b with a larger than normal streetport. also said the 20b powers the turbo easily and spools up like nothing beucase of the heat the 20b motor generates. so perhaps u guys forget a big *** turbo. but i think the crew chiefs truck is sorta just has impressive has abel's car its all motor runs 8.6 and has been using that motor for years now at drag strips but he doesnt race nearly has much has abel because he gots a better job.(works at honda:S) i seen abels rear rims those things are huge and a old clutch that was 6 grand for !!!!
01-25-03, 06:40 PM
#10
Originally posted by SlayerwithaFC3S
perhaps he has a great crew chief who is all knowing lol well he said its running 1300 hp with 20 psi streetported. if they ran any higher he would have more traction problems than he already does. they cant use nitrous because of traction problems. i mean how do u know he just doesnt have one badass 20b with a larger than normal streetport. also said the 20b powers the turbo easily and spools up like nothing beucase of the heat the 20b motor generates. so perhaps u guys forget a big *** turbo. but i think the crew chiefs truck is sorta just has impressive has abel's car its all motor runs 8.6 and has been using that motor for years now at drag strips but he doesnt race nearly has much has abel because he gots a better job.(works at honda:S) i seen abels rear rims those things are huge and a old clutch that was 6 grand for !!!!
perhaps he has a great crew chief who is all knowing lol well he said its running 1300 hp with 20 psi streetported. if they ran any higher he would have more traction problems than he already does. they cant use nitrous because of traction problems. i mean how do u know he just doesnt have one badass 20b with a larger than normal streetport. also said the 20b powers the turbo easily and spools up like nothing beucase of the heat the 20b motor generates. so perhaps u guys forget a big *** turbo. but i think the crew chiefs truck is sorta just has impressive has abel's car its all motor runs 8.6 and has been using that motor for years now at drag strips but he doesnt race nearly has much has abel because he gots a better job.(works at honda:S) i seen abels rear rims those things are huge and a old clutch that was 6 grand for !!!!
You engine might be Abels's next.......
Just be carefull!!
01-25-03, 06:42 PM
#11
Full Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: cali
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
heh this guy isnt a kid well the crew chief i believe him to be really good epecally since he helps out alot of other draggers in there set up's btw abel wouldnt want my engine 183k on it and its not a 20b abel gets 20b's like nothing so why would he want a second gen non turbo 13b about to blow up lol
01-25-03, 06:44 PM
#12
Full Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: cali
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
and what makes it so hard to believe that abel runs those numbers what if i build a motor exactly like his and get the same numbers would u call me a lier or perhaps u gotta see me do everything to believe me. seriously i dont think this guy would lie he doesnt look like that kind of dude to lie to someone with alot less knowledge then him
01-26-03, 04:38 AM
#13
Originally posted by SlayerwithaFC3S
...i mean how do u know he just doesnt have one badass 20b with a larger than normal streetport. also said the 20b powers the turbo easily and spools up like nothing beucase of the heat the 20b motor generates. so perhaps u guys forget a big *** turbo...
...i mean how do u know he just doesnt have one badass 20b with a larger than normal streetport. also said the 20b powers the turbo easily and spools up like nothing beucase of the heat the 20b motor generates. so perhaps u guys forget a big *** turbo...
And so what if his turbocharger spools up faster? That won't make him any more power.
01-26-03, 04:42 AM
#14
Originally posted by SlayerwithaFC3S
...btw abel wouldnt want my engine 183k on it and its not a 20b abel gets 20b's like nothing so why would he want a second gen non turbo 13b about to blow up lol
...btw abel wouldnt want my engine 183k on it and its not a 20b abel gets 20b's like nothing so why would he want a second gen non turbo 13b about to blow up lol
Sure he might be able to get them easy, but when they are costing as much as they are, I'm sure he's concerned enough to make sure the one he is using has no errors to create an unecessary chance of blowing it up.
01-26-03, 04:44 AM
#15
Originally posted by SlayerwithaFC3S
and what makes it so hard to believe that abel runs those numbers what if i build a motor exactly like his and get the same numbers would u call me a lier or perhaps u gotta see me do everything to believe me. seriously i dont think this guy would lie he doesnt look like that kind of dude to lie to someone with alot less knowledge then him
and what makes it so hard to believe that abel runs those numbers what if i build a motor exactly like his and get the same numbers would u call me a lier or perhaps u gotta see me do everything to believe me. seriously i dont think this guy would lie he doesnt look like that kind of dude to lie to someone with alot less knowledge then him
01-26-03, 07:23 AM
#16
Looks like he upgraded to a custom intake manifold. I wonder if he just had the stock one on there for the first few months while he was still getting the engine all tuned up right. I found this pic in another thread posted about 3 months ago.
01-26-03, 04:28 PM
#17
Originally posted by SlayerwithaFC3S
and what makes it so hard to believe that abel runs those numbers what if i build a motor exactly like his and get the same numbers would u call me a lier or perhaps u gotta see me do everything to believe me. seriously i dont think this guy would lie he doesnt look like that kind of dude to lie to someone with alot less knowledge then him
and what makes it so hard to believe that abel runs those numbers what if i build a motor exactly like his and get the same numbers would u call me a lier or perhaps u gotta see me do everything to believe me. seriously i dont think this guy would lie he doesnt look like that kind of dude to lie to someone with alot less knowledge then him
Easy, Abel DOES not hold the record for the fastest 3 rotor drag car, nor the mileage record. The person who holds both records on a 20B engine, claims a 800-850HP without NOS!!! Furthermore, every other 20B tuner claims similar numbers to the person who holds the fastetest 1/4 mile in a 20B.
There are a LOT of people tunning rotary engine way before Abel......
Your engine my be due for a rebuild, but racers WILL allways find something to use out of a tired engine, specially if the engine will be blown after a couple of passes.
Since you are talking about believing, sky is the limit. Go ahead and build a 170HP @ the wheels NA FC
01-26-03, 06:06 PM
#18
Rotary Freak
Damn wish my N/A would hit 170rwp. Its 160rwp right now but someday I will hit 170rwp lol. You guys are dorks for seriously thinking that this guy wants to salvage parts off his rotory.
The bigger the turbo the more power you will make at the same PSI as a smaller turbo. Custom T80 with who knows what else done to it will make 1300 on a 20b im sure. Mabey its a little higher psi than 25 but still impressive.
The bigger the turbo the more power you will make at the same PSI as a smaller turbo. Custom T80 with who knows what else done to it will make 1300 on a 20b im sure. Mabey its a little higher psi than 25 but still impressive.
01-26-03, 07:04 PM
#19
Originally posted by von
Damn wish my N/A would hit 170rwp. Its 160rwp right now but someday I will hit 170rwp lol. You guys are dorks for seriously thinking that this guy wants to salvage parts off his rotory.
The bigger the turbo the more power you will make at the same PSI as a smaller turbo. Custom T80 with who knows what else done to it will make 1300 on a 20b im sure. Mabey its a little higher psi than 25 but still impressive.
Damn wish my N/A would hit 170rwp. Its 160rwp right now but someday I will hit 170rwp lol. You guys are dorks for seriously thinking that this guy wants to salvage parts off his rotory.
The bigger the turbo the more power you will make at the same PSI as a smaller turbo. Custom T80 with who knows what else done to it will make 1300 on a 20b im sure. Mabey its a little higher psi than 25 but still impressive.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...highlight=abel
A perfect example "Eddie Bello"
It could be possible to achieve 1300HP out of a 20B at high boost...........BUT it hasn't been done!!! Siguel says in the range of 1200hp with NOS, and and he holds the record. Care to explain why Abel record isnt equal or better than Siguel's 7.13 @ 189.07 ?
Besides the point that other racers agree with those HP numbers!!
Last edited by KNONFS; 01-26-03 at 07:13 PM.
01-26-03, 08:38 PM
#20
Learned alot | Alot to go
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rotaryland, New Hampshire
Posts: 4,232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
??? can someone explain to me why i see it go directly from turbo to the intake manafold? is there some sort of massive waterinjection going on? or am i missing the intercooler or is there something else goig on i just missed or do not
Last edited by CrackHeadMel; 01-26-03 at 08:49 PM.
01-26-03, 09:13 PM
#21
Rotary Freak
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Sinking Spring Pa.
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by CrackHeadMel
??? can someone explain to me why i see it go directly from turbo to the intake manafold? is there some sort of massive waterinjection going on? or am i missing the intercooler or is there something else goig on i just missed or do not
??? can someone explain to me why i see it go directly from turbo to the intake manafold? is there some sort of massive waterinjection going on? or am i missing the intercooler or is there something else goig on i just missed or do not
Last edited by 1FastT2; 01-26-03 at 09:16 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
datfast1
Old School and Other Rotary
18
06-20-19 10:53 PM
23Racer
Race Car Tech
1
09-21-15 10:48 AM
rx8volks
Canadian Forum
0
09-01-15 10:46 PM
