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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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engine temperature increases with engine spped

It seems that my engine temperature increases with my engine speed. The faster I go or the harder I push the engine, the temp increases. It gets up to over halfway at highway speeds and just driving around town it stays around halfway. One thing I was wondering is how long it should take for the radiator to get hot at normal temp? My radiator seems to get hot pretty quick which is making me think that I may have a clogged radiator or a slipping water pump. I plan to get the radiator rodded out soon. Anyone else ever had their radiator rodded out and seen an improvement in cooling? I am in the process of flushing the system to see if that will help. BTW, I just replaced the thermostat with a mazda one and I have the underbelly tray attached. Too bad I can't afford one of those $400.00 Koyo or Fluidyne radiators. Any help is appreaciated.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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My vote goes to the pump either slipping under load. OR getting old. Mine finally went out about amonth or so ago and that was one of my main problems. The other problem was a small crack in the top tank(plastic) of my radiator.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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So, just because the water pump doesn't leak, doesn't mean that it is working properly?
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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I would guess it's the water pump slipping, because it's not pumping much at higher speeds. Put a double belt on it. http://www.1300cc.com/howto/how2/belt.htm
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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I still have my air pump. I see this is used when removing the air pump. Still think it is the water pump? Anyway to check for sure, or do I just have to buy one and put it one?
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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do you have all your plasic panels under / over the rad?

edit never mind says you do

check for leafs etc blocking the rad.

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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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it still could slip if it's a worn out belt (or both belts are worn out). Especially if you get coolant on the belts.

Try tightening both belts properly (as the manual says) and if that doesn't work, might need to change them, not sure though.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Hmm maybe that's my problem. I know for a fact that the damn air pump belt is slipping. Stupid peice of crap is as loose as a 50 year old hooker. I imagine my water pump pulley is slipping as a result of it then.
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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I'll try tightening the belt. I just replaced it not long ago, so I really think it is the water pump, but its not leaking. That is the only thing besides the radiator being clogged that I can think of that could cause this problem. Do I really need to buy a Mazda water pump, or would one from NAPA suffice?
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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ok, i tightened the belt and flushed the cooling system. no help. anybody else know how to tell if the water pump may not be circulating enough water?
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:59 AM
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maybe cross circuit? between temperature and speedometer?
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 04:39 AM
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A water pump is just a wheel driven by the belt or belts.
If the seal is leaking, there will be coolant leaking from the weep hole. In extreme case, one or more blades from the water pump could have broken off from corrosion but I've seen that happen only once.
Many things need to be considered for the cooling system to work *PROPERLY*. All ducts should be in place. I don't understand why people take those things off. It's plastic!
Check your lower hose. When you rev the engine, see if the lower hose collapses.
Check between the radiator and a/c condenser if anything is lodged in there.
If you recently opened the cooling system, bleed the air out.
If the belts are slipping , that's an obvious sound you can't miss.
If you've never changed coolant, well, now is the time. You should do that yearly and ALWAYS use distilled water.
You shouldn't tighten the belt too much or else it will put too much strain on the water pump. If it's still slipping after tightening it, you need new belts. Get OEM Mazda belts . Don't even mess with the other belts.

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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cross-circuit? can you explain spawn? I flushed the cooling system last night and drove to work and the needle was reading 3/4. ouch!! I haven't checked the lower radiator hose yet. I notice that the radiator get hot pretty quick. Another thing is that I am not spitting coolant from the overflow, so maybe it isn't getting as hot as the gauge says it is. Anybody else had this problem and what fixed it. Belts are good and tight, OEM thermostat, underbelly is on, no leaking water pump, but when I open the cap, the water seems to be moving really slow in the radiator even after it warms up.
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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walterh- Chances are it is the pump just being OLD or a small crack in the radiator's plastic tanks.
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