InMyWhiteTII

Do any of you guys have the toe locks that cancel out the "rear wheel steering"? how does it handle compared to before? just wanted to get some reviews to see if i should buy a set or not. thanks

turbo-polak

i bought a set, havent installed them yet, from what i've read they make a big difference...

especially for drifting.

Icemark

Better than worn out DTSS bushings

Some people claim they corner better with solid replacements, but if the driver knows the DTSS system and can use it for its true potential it has been proven that a DTSS equipped car will corner at faster speeds than a non DTSS equipped FC.

But again, if you are not experienced with the system the toe shift of the DTSS can throw your driving style and in these cases you may be better off with solid repalcements.

Jager

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I heard when it was explained to me that it frees up the rear end and makes it feel "loose", easier to kick out the rear end and such.

But then again, I have no 1st hand experience, just to what I was told .

Nihilanthic

DTSS was Mazdas way to put some passive toe change into a semi trailing arm setup (FC is semi trailing arm, right?). Ultimately, though, its dependant on the compliance of the bushings, and I havent seen any sort of replacement for them, except for the DTSS elimination bushings.

Personally, though, Id rahter just lock it and have something more progressive vs something with a higher limit, but transision from limit to past it thats a lot more sudden than the progressive oversteer of no DTSS.

Turbo II

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I had a lot of people tell me to change mine out when I was redoing my suspension last month. I decided to wait and see. I put in new shocks, springs and the ES kit along with new tires. With the old tires and worn out shocks I couldn't drive the car in the rain. You could feel the DTSS trying to compensate for the tires going in a straight line. On dry roads I didn't like the way it kicked in either but felt that was the tires and or shocks/bushings. When I changed out my bushings they all looked pretty good for having 100k on them and like I said the shocks were shot. Now on wet or dry pavement I have none of the old problems, and I do like the way the DTSS works. I haven't noticed it being a sudden change when it's working but can feel it coming into play whcih allows me to work the car more to take advantage of it if needed. I don't know if that makes sense but that's the way it seems to me.

BklynRX7

Is there anyway to test if the system is working or not?

bacek

the system should always work, but due to its age it does not work as well as it used to... replacing the dtss is expensive as mazda does not sell the dtss bushings alone that is why most people go with dtss eliminator bushings

Mason Rx7

So we prolly can't get our hands on new one's can we?

powrdby13B

I was talking about this exact same thing to a friend about an hour ago..
Before I got used to DTSS, I was like WTF WHY DOES THIS CAR HAVE SHITTY UNDERSTEER
But now...
I have a RX that's stock + cone filter.. and I can turn faster and drift better than a friend with a similar setup + coilovers.

rx7b13

i like my dtss it helps in autox

fastrotaries

I replaced my worn out DTSS bushings with new ones, AutoX for 2 seasons and then eliminated them all together. I think the car with the DTSS working wants to turn in much quicker and understeer ALOT less. However the catch is that it's more finicky when the *** steps out, and a bigger pain in the *** to get it under control than with the system eliminated. I'm drving right now with the system eliminated and am much happier. Far easier to predict exactly what the limit of adhesion is. and far easier to interpret what the tires and the car is doing on it's axis. I for one...vote for eliminating them.

KeloidJonesJr.

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DTTS causes understeer? What's the ups of it, high turning radius?

digitalsolo

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DTSS should cause more oversteer then understeer by it's nature.

I eliminated mine, as drag launches with high torque/HP engines tend to be, interesting, with the bushings installed.

KeloidJonesJr.

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Doesn't DTTS give you a higher turning radius cause it has some kind of mini-4ws.