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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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the stock turbo doesn't feel fast until you wind it over 10psi. 6-8psi doesn't make enough torque. The flat torque feeling from the lower boost levels is what makes it feel like a V6.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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this is making me feel like i wasted my money for the S5 TII swap i bought =(
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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dont think that way. just get a fcd, some 720's, safc(or something comprable) a fuel pump and a racing beat exhaust and you will be set. sounds like a lot but its really not
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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My stock S4 TII was also dissappointing in a few ways. Mostly throttle response. It doesn't blip like my S4 N/A with open exhaust and no accessories, and it doesn't have as much grunt off idle. However, the first time I opened it up on an on ramp, there was a nice smooth wallop of power, and it put a big grin on my face. It's nice to be able to just press the gas a bit and accelerate on the freeway. I'm excited for the mods when they come.

I still drive both cars, the N/A in the Winter, and I love them both. I find myself driving the N/A more aggressively around town- the motor seems happy that way, and I don't end up breaking speed limits. The T2 is more subtle. It just accelerates when you want it to without any fuss. If I play with the T2, I end up going pretty fast, and it's over quickly. It's happiest on the freeway or the autocross/track.
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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mine feels like a v 8............ chris what boost was that s5 running??
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Turn it up to 10psi with proper fuel and tuning and a stock T2 will be a much different car.

I drove my little brother's stock 10th AE and like BlueTII said, it felt like a v6. Back in the day however, that would be exhilarating.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gregory Casimir
this is making me feel like i wasted my money for the S5 TII swap i bought =(
dont worry about it dude, just a few basic bolt ons and you'll love it (honestly I think the op prolly drove a pos)

Personally I think you should rate the car for it is instead of what it's not

(but then again that's comming from a S5 T2 owner)
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 04:34 AM
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when I got my TII I loved it. I guess it helped that I was 7less for about 6 months and it had a corksport catback that just screamed down the street.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FC3S_nataku
dont think that way. just get a fcd, some 720's, safc(or something comprable) a fuel pump and a racing beat exhaust and you will be set. sounds like a lot but its really not
i was planning on those basic bolt-ons but still trying to max out the stock turbine. the RB exhaust would be nice but i want something with a single exhaust outlet cause i'm not to big of a fan for dual. I really like the car cause it's my first sports (soon to be turbo) car.
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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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i guess i am just use to the instant power of my slow NA
How can you make such a contradictory statement? "The instant power of your slow NA"? Doesn't make sense. Stop trying to compare an NA to a turbo, its vastly different.

All the power your car makes at its peak, a stock TII will make that in half the time it takes for you to make it. Much less a modified TII with a bigger turbo and supporting crap to go with it.

Just sayin'
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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"When the turbo finally spooled" , huh? There's something wrong with that turbo/car if you're sitting around waiting for the turbo to spool. With a non-broken stock turbo, boost is instantaneous and comes on hard around 3k RPM. There's a huge wave of torque in the midrange that an NA just does not have. If you couldn't feel the difference, something is either wrong with you, or wrong with the car. It's a night and day difference. And as far as top-end, a stock turbo with a good intake and exhaust setup will breath just fine up to ~6K RPM. I can maintain 10 psi up that high, and still about 8 psi to redline.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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i scare the **** out of every 1 that rides with me .12 psi. 225 ish hp........1. 7 and 750 s on way..........weeeeeee.10mm:}
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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When I got my turbo I kinda felt the same way, Coming from an na. But after a couple days and learning how to really drive the car. How and when the boost comes on. And just the mid range. Now when I get in my na and try and drive it the same it just falls on it's face.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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idk what you guys are talking about. i had an n/a for 2 years before getting a TII. It only had about 250whp but it scared the crap out of me until i got used to it
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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250??? what m0ds.?
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
idk what you guys are talking about. i had an n/a for 2 years before getting a TII. It only had about 250whp but it scared the crap out of me until i got used to it
An NA with 250whp sounds like BS. And on the off chance that you actually did have an NA making 250whp, then that's totally irrelevant to the topic because we are talking about stock power level NA's, your car would probably have a lot of money in to it to make that power on an NA motor.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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^He's talking about his turbo.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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lol ...read again , T2
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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im running a 1.7 rtek 720 secondaries 255 walbro 3 inch racingbeat exhaust and 15psi and i must say....i made my friend literally pee on himself...not only that spanked a -09 gti by 7 cars and a trans am gta....the difference between n/a and turbo is that the na saves gas has a higher compression ratio and its pretty quick the turbo how ever have lower compression but is very fast and has a different power feel....i would love to have both thats why im looking for an na as a daily to drive around
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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hey guys just read the whole deal on here i just baught a 88 t2 i had a na before and it deffently a diffrent feel to them but on to the real question i dont know what has been done to mine it has been molested by the pervious owners it is running a bov and the wastegate and there are a few things that are just not there anymore looks to me like emisions does any one have a pic of a stock t2 car turbo side ? it has a aftermarket cone filter and exahuast on it ... also my boost gauge does not seem to read right could this be a fuel cut defenser you guys talk about and what are sum things to get these cars to run right .... also what are sum good starteing mods if your using the stock turbo
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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wtf.. I had t2 for a while and when i drove a na again , it felt like losing 150hp with no torq
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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hey 25 ,, punch in fcd in the search ,,go to fcd or rtek................awesome thread...10mm
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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smokie .thats the set up im getting.. did u ever do a wide ban test to make sure ,penty air and fuel>>>>>??1omm
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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no i didnt...i bought the car like that...and i jus did the research to see what i had...im not sure if i have a wide band o2 but i will check tomorrow...but it runs great minus the big port thats causing me to loose a lot of gas....i either have to reflash the ecu or upgrade to the 2.1 or haltek
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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ok thanks guys
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