turboefini88

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SR20's are NOT forged from the factory. They are turboed with supporting a/f control. the KA you speak of was built forged from what you say. Therefore, the KA WOULD stand up to more abuse then the stock SR20's.

wanna_be_dk

if you are worried about tires there is someting you need to know\


used junk tires, cheap and many of them

Digi7ech

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^you obviously don't drift. Being able to regain control is the important part lol. Used tires aren't generally known for great grip.

Then after you buy all the junk tires which may tear apart you can spend $5+ dollars per rim to have them mounted.

wanna_be_dk

not really, you can get good cond. tir and rims for vary cheap, the have like 50% tred on them, you still get good grip, you shouldnt even start out with real race tires when you learn anyways, once you can drift normal tires, you can do the more higher speeds of drifts you get when you put the real race tires on. if need to be able to have the lower speeds to learn, the real race tires have high grip and will cause a much higher speeds. so less grip=less speeds, you will spend out more, but if you start off smartly, it will work.

ch0g0nda

I never found taking an FC sideways to be nearly as difficult as some of the testimonials here would lead you to believe.

If you've been driving your FC hard (read: grip) for a while and know what it's characteristics are when it's being pushed then you're probably ready to try some of the sideways stuff.

Just remember to keep it all on a track.

wanna_be_dk

that is a prob with me i have a mt. to do it on, but it is twice as fun

rspeed9i6

i'll make it short...its so fun drifting my fc!

wanganrunner7

dude japan also made sr20de they made non turbo sr20's we also have them over here and we put them in the 200sx.

turboefini88

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I know this. You were compairing a built and turboed KA against apparently stock SR20DET's. There are quite a plethora of these engines and what they actually fit. Red tops, black tops, blue tops ect ect ect. IIRC the blue top is the one they swap into the 200sx. I was just stating that you were comparing a built engine against stock engines and basing the reliability of each. ITs apples and oranges.

Anyways, lets not threadjack this guys thread anymore.

stevensimon

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i learned in fc then when it blew i picked up a 240, and grew in leaps and bounds with drifting and that car. sold the 240 and back to fc. its definitley different but physics dont change for any chassis. setup is important. the best advice i can give you is tire pressure, that is the single most andvantageous thing you can change to a car to change its characteristics when drifting. spin too much? lower rear pressure, understeer too much? raise rear pressure. practice practice practice and get an extra set of wheels so you can change em before you go out so you dont trash your good set of street tires. get an account at the local tire store, they will love you and give discounts if you are in there every week. second best advice is to just go and be safe. so many kids get done watching formula d or initial d or whatever else and race up the canyon just to lock their brakes and slam head first into a k rail or straight off the road where they promptly get stuck 20 feet down the hill. then i pull em out and their very next run is the same damn thing. slow down pay attention and if you lock the tires and cant steer let go of the brake and turn damnit! good luck..

p.s. i wish we had a drift park here. i would much prefer it over a mountain(unpredictability and po po) and parking lots dont really count. now i gotta go drive. YOU BASTARDS!

wanganrunner7

lol if we had a freakin drift park i would be happy i would be glad to make the drive to where ever it is than drift a a parking lot.

but yea i still don't see the point in putting a sr in a 240, just keep the ka, and don't give me that bull crap about sr's rev higher, just throw in some cams in the ka and you will be fine.

Ok no more thread jacking i promise lol. now i am riled up and wanna drive, F*** i have no damn car.

Drift Off a Mountain

Where should i learn to drift?

wanganrunner7

a track where its nice and safe and can be monitored but if you have no race track near you find a parking lot where their is no people or cars, lik a abandon building with a big parking lot that is not close to your city or something that is wide and open, so if you mess up you won't hit anything.

but do drift at a track tho it is kinda worth it, trust me on this ok.

Raziel

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Here are a few sites to see if you have any drift events near you.

www.driftday.com
www.idcracing.com
www.justdrift.com
www.dgtrials.com

wanna_be_dk

we should hold a fc drift meet

got_boost

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a daily driven 3 rotor swap cost over 35k$



Alamo Rotary 20B Conversion Price List
USED 3 ROTOR 20B ENGINE CORE
REBUILD 20B SHORT BLOCK
CNC MACHINE ROTORS (3)
MATCH THROTTLE BODY
CUSTOM MANIFOLD & ADAPTORS
ENGINE MANAGEMENT
FUEL INJECTORS
HIGH VOLUME FUEL PUMP
FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
10MM SPARK PLUG WIRES
CUSTOM PULLEYS & BELTS
CUSTOM INTERCOOLER
HEAVY DUTY HIGH PERFORMANCE CLUTCH KIT
BILLET ALUMINUM FLYWHEEL
HEAVY DUTY ALUMINUM RADIATOR
MISC COOLING/BOOST HOSES & CLAMPS
OIL COOLER, MISC OIL LINES & FITTINGS
MISC OIL, FILTERS & GEAR LUBE
CUSTOM SUBFRAME
BATTERY DRY CELL
BATTERY INSTALLATION KIT
A/C RETROFIT PARTS
PARTS SUBTOTAL: $27010.00
LABOR 150 HOURS @ $60/HR 9000.00

PROJECT TOTAL: $36010.00 (Plus Tax)

junito1

Im in jacksonville florida. Ill go to a meet any meet in the south east.=D

wanganrunner7

junito yall dudes in florida have a good drifting scene out their, i went to nopi nationals this summer, and like almost all the 240's were from florida i was like dang yall runnin this stuff ain't yall lol.

smokie

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man you are so right about that a t2 can prduce more power i guess thats why i invested in one and you are also right about setting yourself apart dont be like the rest everyone has a 240 you dont see to many fc drifters but hey we can change that and thats why im learning how to do it in mines

smokie

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that is crazy if i ever get a 240 i would just use it as a daily driver and make it look nice i mean they are nice but because everyone has one it makes me not want one but i dont see why people wont use the engine thats already in it

smokie

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smokie

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yea thats about right but you may be able to do it cheaper any things possible but yea thats about right and thats my next project when i get my house by then i will be able to do everything myself when i done with school and things like that and saving up money and its always good to have a wife or a girlfriend that supports your hobby or your dreams

alwayssideways

IM back and after yet another drift event I have more info atleast from my POV.

The FC is not as bad as I had orignally thought. My first time out was ok. Alot of e-braking , and a lot of faints, but still fun. things i added since the last event.

Put P/s back in
Installed dtss eliminators
Installed super drift tien coil overs
Upgraded injectors, boost controller
re-located battery to the bins
installed rear camber adjusted peice
got a set of 15 in tires
shimmed the steering rack
Ordered the steering angle kit (didnt arrive in time)

Results of the last event
The car was much easier to put into a drift with out the use of the e-brake. I started to use power over alot more along with braking into the corner to upset traction. The shimming of the steering rack helped but after installing the current kit I have not I can tell this would have helped sooooo much more. I was getting really bad over steer and didnt have enough angle to pull out of it. My power was there for the long sweepers but the tight corners where a quicker spooling turbo could have been benificial to me would have helped alot. I could have stayed higher in the rpm range. But this is something I can change next time out. Over all the FC is getting better. Like even the 240's they need to be set up. The FC needs more I think than a 240. (I was able to drift the 240's very well through out the course) But the thing I love about the FC's is what everyone else has been saying. You dont see them drifting here in the US as much and they are an attention getter. I am going to continue to use the fc for drifting. The next mods I am going to do to help are

1.5 way ATS diff. (I used a 2 way and a welded diff on the 240's and you can tell the difference when entering the corners that the stock clutch t2 diff is ok , but the aftermaket is way better)

Standalone EMS . I am running a 1.7 r-tek with an SAFC2 and i am having trouble controlling the 1600cc secondaries . I get a bad bog when they kick in.

Energy suspension bushings - Keep that chassis tight

odd and end motor mounts , diff mounts, tranny mounts

All in all , i have a love with my fc for drifting. I see a diamond in the rough. Im going to get this car where I like it hopefully soon. Drifting is fun with the car and challeging and if you can drift a FC you can drift the easier cars like 240's

Here are some pics from my last event

turboefini88

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Good info Sideways. Thanks for the input. Once the weather breaks here in PGH, and I get this damn TII put back together, I should be able to hit beaver run http://www.beaverun.com they do drift practice and drift comps on thier skid pad so its safe.

alwayssideways

good deal. Lately with work I try and stay local. I normally run at limerock most of the time.

When i do drift on the roads its normally wide open roads that have very little traffic in the middle of the night so I can see lights. But I normally dont do that too often .

Markl