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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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ok so I'm a huge initial d fan... got the stickers to make my car like my favorite anime super star's. And I've become pretty good four wheel driftin'. (used to have a 84 gti the I beat the **** out of when I turned 16 (thus the beginning of my drifting days , cause I thought I owned a rally car minus the 500,000 dollars in mods, lol). So what would you guys recommend for a 87 TII stock. First I have to fix iron out some small problems... but what kind of mods would you recommend for a good drift machine?
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Hey, you could try putting on some sway bars, i dunno ur spendin limit, but they're about $300 american. And, try different tires, i dunno which ones are the best, but you should probably find the ones you feel the most comfterble with. Other then that i got nothin else...
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Try this link....

http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?...20RX7&vaffid=0

Lotsa Mods, but lacking lots too.....
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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it really depends how much money you want to spend, and if you want some power as well as an excellent suspension.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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tykelly27 what part of PA u in?
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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You wanna drift ?

Put a nice sway bar on the front . Then buy some GXL rims or cheap rims for the back and put really crappy tires on them . You'll want to beat up 10 $ tires not 110 $ ones .

Find a nice big open lot . Possibly an Auto-X if one is close . Start trying feint motion , and holding it . You 'll get use to ti . It's much easier to practice in the rain as well IMO . Less strain on your drivetrain easier to kick it out .


Just practice alot . Be sure to take care of your car as well . Don't beat the **** out of it trying to be Takahasi Ryosuke .
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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to drift u need sway bars front and back around 300 all together. drop the **** with eibachs or some thing. and get high grip in front and like crappy slicks in the back. i almost never drift on dry concrete almost never in rain either just in the snow. ur tires will get bald instantly. lol.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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okay, are you asking what parts to buy for drifting? or how to drift?

if you don't have to worry about money, get some nice coilovers, like Tein or something of the sort, new sway bars, and strut bars(good ones) for the front and back. a roll bar wouldn't hurt either(just make the chassis really stiff with a good susp.) also, new bushings for EVERYTHING would be a good idea. if you're low on cash, get some new springs like RB, and new struts/shocks, maybe KYB AGX's, and new sway bars and strut bars-I'd go with the strut bars first, as they will make your steering more responsive, and probably make the car easier to control. and since its a TII, you should already have an LSD- just make sure its working properly.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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Yeah so I don't have unlimited funds but I'm interested in making a great drift car... I live near Bloomsburg, PA but thanks to the peidmont I've got some real good downhill drift areas. But I need to upgrade and rewire my fuel pump along with putting my intake on... I'm not looking for the highest of power but I'd like enough to make an impression. so my plans are those and cleaning out my cats. I figure this will provide the power and it'll be open enough that I shouldn't have to worry about detonation. Also my engine is basically new I just got it installed in july so it's only got about 6-7k on it. So my following upgrades will be drift oriented. So I'm taking from you guys said, that down grading to gxl wheels and cheep tires to get started. Also, strut bars, springs will be needed for suspenion. How do I see if my LSD is working correctly?

And out of curiousity how are first gens for drift style? I've come across a very inexpensive one that runs. I figure if it uses as much gas as I pay for the car it's worth it.

Ideas?
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Re: near future Idea...

Originally posted by tykelley27
Yeah so I don't have unlimited funds but I'm interested in making a great drift car... I live near Bloomsburg, PA but thanks to the peidmont I've got some real good downhill drift areas. But I need to upgrade and rewire my fuel pump along with putting my intake on... I'm not looking for the highest of power but I'd like enough to make an impression. so my plans are those and cleaning out my cats. I figure this will provide the power and it'll be open enough that I shouldn't have to worry about detonation. Also my engine is basically new I just got it installed in july so it's only got about 6-7k on it. So my following upgrades will be drift oriented. So I'm taking from you guys said, that down grading to gxl wheels and cheep tires to get started. Also, strut bars, springs will be needed for suspenion. How do I see if my LSD is working correctly?

And out of curiousity how are first gens for drift style? I've come across a very inexpensive one that runs. I figure if it uses as much gas as I pay for the car it's worth it.

Ideas?
I am in Doylestown, 40min NE of philly and we do street drifting quite often. I have a pretty well based drift car...JIC's, 10pt cage, T04... but ill tell you what, i didnt learn on this setup. I started with just eibachs/tokicos and full exhaust, along with the small supporting mods, but you dont need a million dollars to make your car drift ready. You could come out and we can give you some pointers and help you get your car setup for good drifting. And even better...

How far are you from Englishtown, NJ??? In 2 weeks (March 26th 5-10) we are having our first monthly Drift Night at Raceway Park. The last wednesday of the month, from now till fall. We have a course laid out in the parking lot and it is only $25 for drivers to enter... It is the best way to learn the limits of your car, I will be driving and also helping out with advice on how to setup your car, and how to drive the car.

email ECoast666@aol.com to get on the mailing list, and dont forget, 2 weeks! Englishtown!

Here is a short teaser of me and a friend testing the course layout.

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http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~ab54/ecda/driftteaser.mov

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http://www.vosko.net/media/drift/drift%20hi-res.avi

In the 3rd to last slide you can see me come within 8 feet of the lightpole, kept the drift going all the way , just had to let off the gas for a sec so it wouldnt keep pushing towards the pole... we shifted the course away from the post after that. And there will be impact barriers around each one worse case scenerio, but now you should be totally clear of them..

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ok so I'm a huge initial d fan... got the stickers to make my car like my favorite anime super star's. And I've become pretty good four wheel driftin'. (used to have a 84 gti the I beat the **** out of when I turned 16 (thus the beginning of my drifting days , cause I thought I owned a rally car minus the 500,000 dollars in mods, lol). So what would you guys recommend for a 87 TII stock. First I have to fix iron out some small problems... but what kind of mods would you recommend for a good drift machine?
sounds like TOOOOOO much initial D for one thing....

to all the people saying u NEED sway bar blah blah blah...u really dont need ****...stock TII AS IS can be drifted fairly well...learn the stock settings first then upgrade...
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 02:00 AM
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by aresexheaven
sounds like TOOOOOO much initial D for one thing....

to all the people saying u NEED sway bar blah blah blah...u really dont need ****...stock TII AS IS can be drifted fairly well...learn the stock settings first then upgrade...


Learn on the stock setup and upgrade as needed.


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Exactly.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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Re: near future Idea...

Originally posted by tykelley27
Yeah so I don't have unlimited funds but I'm interested in making a great drift car... I live near Bloomsburg, PA but thanks to the peidmont I've got some real good downhill drift areas.
Now if I were you I would not try drifting on the mountains. Don't even think about it at this point as (I assume) you have not even drifted properly before (power slides don't count!). Practice it at least a couple of hundred times, get a feel on how it really works, and then MAYBE try it on the mountains. There are way too many random variables on a mountain road (dirt, sand, water, rocks, etc.)...

Here in CA we have some pretty good drifting events about once a month/2 months (Club 4AG's Drift Day(s), etc...). If there are any such events in PA I would highly recommend you to go and learn from the "pros"...they usually have some really hard core drifters from Japan/US on the track (more like a parking lot, actually) to give you advice on set-up, technique, etc. You will learn so much from that, I guarantee you.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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http://velocity.isfaster.com/new/index.htm

go there lost of info and also have a 2nd gen and first gen u can look at really sick stuff here i luv the 2nd gen nive videos too
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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before spending huge amounts on trick parts like some above have mention. think about getting some track time. i know guys who have all the trick parts and still can't drive cause they're too busy showing it off at the show. learn to drive the racing line, driving the car at speed and spinning out. and i don't mean going up to your local mountain cause i've seen too many rookies falling off thinking after watching initial d they will be awesome drivers. just find some local open track events and autox.
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Nice video InitialD FC
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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OH MY GOD!! That video totally rocks. Music and everything! Black Sabbath, you guys are my heros!! Holy sh*t I need to get me another 7 to beat on, I could never do that to my baby!
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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I dont know if this has been mentioned but I kept seeing recommendations to use bad tires in the rear. This will make the initiation easier but catching it is much much more difficult. If using bald tires, consider the chances slim to none.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Hey this is a great thread and im also very interested in learning to drift my TII
Now is it really bad for the suspension system? Cuz i would use my stock sus system to practice and then im thinking of getting a really good Tien setup, But what do you guys think about it wearing the sus down, does it damage it a lot? or not really
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Hey this is a great thread and im also very interested in learning to drift my TII
Now is it really bad for the suspension system? Cuz i would use my stock sus system to practice and then im thinking of getting a really good Tien setup, But what do you guys think about it wearing the sus down, does it damage it a lot? or not really
it shouldn't damage teh suspension any more than normal racing. it'll just damage the tires a lot.
a Tein suspension should be able to handle it easily.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but you need the rear toe steer eliminator bushings. Those, and just stiffen the suspension up and cheap reaer tires and your on your way.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by RX-Heven
Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but you need the rear toe steer eliminator bushings. Those, and just stiffen the suspension up and cheap reaer tires and your on your way.
You really don't need those bushings, or anything else. If your car is in good mechanical/running condition, then you can learn to drift. If not, you can still learn to drift, but be prepared to break MORE things.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Infini IV
You really don't need those bushings, or anything else. If your car is in good mechanical/running condition, then you can learn to drift. If not, you can still learn to drift, but be prepared to break MORE things.
Of course you don't need them, but they, and all the other suspension crap you can bolt up just makes it easier and more controllable/predictable/linear at any speed. Those toe eliminator bushings are a major improvement over the stock bushings, especially if they are in crappy shape (all of them basically).
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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OH MY GOD!! That video totally rocks. Music and everything! Black Sabbath, you guys are my heros!! Holy sh*t I need to get me another 7 to beat on, I could never do that to my baby!
Thanks for the compliments...we will have much better footage soon...after our first event.

I would DEFINATELY recommend the bushings for anyone wanting to drift, they make the car so much more predictable and it is easier to control... FYI i did not have my bushings in for that video...but they made a total difference.
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