Does any place sell rebuilt engines?
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Does any place sell rebuilt engines?
I want a 13bt and I don't want to find one and then do a rebuild. Does anyone know of a place that sells engines that are rebuilt already? Thanks.
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to the thread starter: you're only 30 minutes to an hour away from Atkins Rotary, maybe less. www.atkinsrotary.com
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I think he's asking about buying an engine with no core.
You can usually buy a shortblock rebuild from the larger setups (atkins, mazda, etc.) but they tack on a hefty core charge which you wouldn't be geting back...figure on $3500 minimum.
That still leaves you with no external pieces...manifolds, wiring, injectors, waterpump, oilpan, etc. To my knowledge, nowhere in the world offers a rebuilt longblock with all accessories sold out the door. INdustry standard requires that you have a core to begin with, including all your accessories...you tear them off and put them onto the new rebuilt block, and return the old core (either up front or afterwards).
IF you have nothing to start from at all (you might have bought a project car with no drivetrain) then you need to buy a used motor (US or jspec) complete with most accessories, and either run that as is, or for best results use that as your core to build from.
What, you think that just because we are engine builders we can pull complete engines out of our asses and sell to you? You might be thinking...why fool with used parts/cores at all, why not just build from new stuff out of the box. Because mazda charges a shitload for their parts...it'd cost well over 5 grand to build a new SHORTblock from all new parts if ordered at retail. Add the longblock components for a stock motor and you'd have well over 12 grand in a stock motor for a 15-20 year old car worth maybe 5 grand on a good day.
As for myself, there are rare occasions when I buy a whole turbo partscar complete, and pull the engine and drivetrain out with all accessories, rebuild the block, reassemble it all, and sell it as a package. I am the only builder that I have ever heard of doing this, however there are rebuilders who also deal with jspecs and sometimes they tear them down and rebuild them for extra cost when asked.
You can usually buy a shortblock rebuild from the larger setups (atkins, mazda, etc.) but they tack on a hefty core charge which you wouldn't be geting back...figure on $3500 minimum.
That still leaves you with no external pieces...manifolds, wiring, injectors, waterpump, oilpan, etc. To my knowledge, nowhere in the world offers a rebuilt longblock with all accessories sold out the door. INdustry standard requires that you have a core to begin with, including all your accessories...you tear them off and put them onto the new rebuilt block, and return the old core (either up front or afterwards).
IF you have nothing to start from at all (you might have bought a project car with no drivetrain) then you need to buy a used motor (US or jspec) complete with most accessories, and either run that as is, or for best results use that as your core to build from.
What, you think that just because we are engine builders we can pull complete engines out of our asses and sell to you? You might be thinking...why fool with used parts/cores at all, why not just build from new stuff out of the box. Because mazda charges a shitload for their parts...it'd cost well over 5 grand to build a new SHORTblock from all new parts if ordered at retail. Add the longblock components for a stock motor and you'd have well over 12 grand in a stock motor for a 15-20 year old car worth maybe 5 grand on a good day.
As for myself, there are rare occasions when I buy a whole turbo partscar complete, and pull the engine and drivetrain out with all accessories, rebuild the block, reassemble it all, and sell it as a package. I am the only builder that I have ever heard of doing this, however there are rebuilders who also deal with jspecs and sometimes they tear them down and rebuild them for extra cost when asked.
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i bought a NA, and i want to do a conversion, yes i know that i should just start with a turbo but I couldn't pass up on the one i currently own.
I don't have scrap.
Why do places charge for a core or ask for yours in return? Also what does the "core" consist of? Sorry for the questions but I am new, and still learning. Thank you for the replies.
I don't have scrap.
Why do places charge for a core or ask for yours in return? Also what does the "core" consist of? Sorry for the questions but I am new, and still learning. Thank you for the replies.
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the core consits of the front center andrear irons and front and rear rotor housing and all internals (short block)....if i were you i would drive over to atkins and talk to them about it
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I am the only builder that I have ever heard of doing this, however there are rebuilders who also deal with jspecs and sometimes they tear them down and rebuild them for extra cost when asked.
We also do this, as we have a lot of spare engine parts etc. However as you said it increases the price substantially.
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Originally Posted by stevensimon
^^ god damn i love you kevin
oh yeah and how much you looking to spend for those oil lines? i have a set i had custom made
oh yeah and how much you looking to spend for those oil lines? i have a set i had custom made
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Originally Posted by asiansuperstar
i bought a NA, and i want to do a conversion, yes i know that i should just start with a turbo but I couldn't pass up on the one i currently own.
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2n...to_turbo2.html
I don't have scrap.
Why do places charge for a core or ask for yours in return? Also what does the "core" consist of? Sorry for the questions but I am new, and still learning. Thank you for the replies.
Why do places charge for a core or ask for yours in return? Also what does the "core" consist of? Sorry for the questions but I am new, and still learning. Thank you for the replies.
Quoted from above:
What, you think that just because we are engine builders we can pull complete engines out of our asses and sell to you? You might be thinking...why fool with used parts/cores at all, why not just build from new stuff out of the box. Because mazda charges a shitload for their parts...it'd cost well over 5 grand to build a new SHORTblock from all new parts if ordered at retail. Add the longblock components for a stock motor and you'd have well over 12 grand in a stock motor for a 15-20 year old car worth maybe 5 grand on a good day.
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2n..._ls_block.html
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heres a question for you. how much would it cost if i sent you a short block WITH the parts to build it. i bought some 800 dollars in stuff from atkins and i wondered how much it would cost. OR could you build a short block send it to me and i would send my short block and the list of parts to you for reimbersment or core charge....please dont get angry...im just curious
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Originally Posted by skatingsamurai
heres a question for you. how much would it cost if i sent you a short block WITH the parts to build it. i bought some 800 dollars in stuff from atkins and i wondered how much it would cost. OR could you build a short block send it to me and i would send my short block and the list of parts to you for reimbersment or core charge....please dont get angry...im just curious