Do FCs need camber kits with custom rims?
02-14-02, 11:27 PM
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Do FCs need camber kits with custom rims?
I was wondering if I would need a camber kit to straighten out the wheels if I bought some custom rims. The reason I ask is because 2 of my friends have integras and had to buy camber kits. Is it because they don't buy the proper size rims in the proper offsets or what? Thanks alot.
02-15-02, 09:45 AM
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You run into (excessive negative) camber problems when you start dropping the chassis.  Hondas create some absurd camber angles when dropped.
On an FC, the fronts don't camber out too much when dropped mildly under 2").  If you want to throw on camber plates, Ground Control and Cusco offer camber plates.
The REAR of the FC presents headches when lowering!  A slight (1/2") drop can cause negative camber that easily affects traction.  Dropping anything past 1/2" can cause negative camber changes up to 2-degrees PLUS!  The only (easy) way to adjust the excessive camber is to install a rear camber adjustment rod.  Racing Beat and Ground Control both offer similar units.
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On an FC, the fronts don't camber out too much when dropped mildly under 2").  If you want to throw on camber plates, Ground Control and Cusco offer camber plates.
The REAR of the FC presents headches when lowering!  A slight (1/2") drop can cause negative camber that easily affects traction.  Dropping anything past 1/2" can cause negative camber changes up to 2-degrees PLUS!  The only (easy) way to adjust the excessive camber is to install a rear camber adjustment rod.  Racing Beat and Ground Control both offer similar units.
-Ted
02-15-02, 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by mazdaspeed7
Ted, just how much camber can you adjust out with the adjustable link?
Ted, just how much camber can you adjust out with the adjustable link?
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02-15-02, 04:38 PM
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Well I want to get the ground control adjustable springs:
http://www.ground-control.com/gcapguid.htm
and prolly lower the car close to 2" all around (whatever looks the best with 17s on it), so will I need a camber kit?
http://www.ground-control.com/gcapguid.htm
and prolly lower the car close to 2" all around (whatever looks the best with 17s on it), so will I need a camber kit?
02-15-02, 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
and prolly lower the car close to 2" all around (whatever looks the best with 17s on it), so will I need a camber kit?
and prolly lower the car close to 2" all around (whatever looks the best with 17s on it), so will I need a camber kit?
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02-15-02, 05:49 PM
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Just to give you an idea, I lowered my car 2" with the GC kit, and put on 225/15/50 Yokohama AVS Intermediates at the same time. Well its been about 8 months, and the AVS have about 3/8th on the outside of the rear wheels, and from about the middle of the tire to the inside edge, there is 0 tread left, completely smooth. The negative rear-camber is easily noticeable just by looking at the car from behind. My front tires have a little over half-life on them left, and its pretty even tirewear across the tread.
02-15-02, 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by SpeedRacer
Just to give you an idea, I lowered my car 2" with the GC kit, and put on 225/15/50 Yokohama AVS Intermediates at the same time. Well its been about 8 months, and the AVS have about 3/8th on the outside of the rear wheels, and from about the middle of the tire to the inside edge, there is 0 tread left, completely smooth. The negative rear-camber is easily noticeable just by looking at the car from behind. My front tires have a little over half-life on them left, and its pretty even tirewear across the tread.
Just to give you an idea, I lowered my car 2" with the GC kit, and put on 225/15/50 Yokohama AVS Intermediates at the same time. Well its been about 8 months, and the AVS have about 3/8th on the outside of the rear wheels, and from about the middle of the tire to the inside edge, there is 0 tread left, completely smooth. The negative rear-camber is easily noticeable just by looking at the car from behind. My front tires have a little over half-life on them left, and its pretty even tirewear across the tread.
02-15-02, 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
Ok so when lowering the car alot you need the camber kit for the rear only right?
Ok so when lowering the car alot you need the camber kit for the rear only right?
How much is it and from where? Like $100 or what? Thanks alot.
The Ground Control one is a bit pricier...
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02-15-02, 08:55 PM
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The car likes some negative camber in the rear too if you're doing autocross.
Helps a lot in the twisties as long as it's not too much. Kumho's tech tips say the tires perform their best with 2-3 deg.
Helps a lot in the twisties as long as it's not too much. Kumho's tech tips say the tires perform their best with 2-3 deg.
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Ted,
From what you've said, I'm glad I haven't bought the Racing Beat springs set for my FC yet. They say it drops the car about 1". So even for these springs I'd need to get the camber kit, correct?
From what you've said, I'm glad I haven't bought the Racing Beat springs set for my FC yet. They say it drops the car about 1". So even for these springs I'd need to get the camber kit, correct?