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Old 07-25-06, 04:13 PM
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clutch woes

alright, i searched and searched for days and couldn't find anything, hopefully someone will be able to help. my transmission has been messing up. whenever i drive it, it gets harder and harder to shift into gear(especially first and reverse) well i changed the master cylinder and bled it. that didn't work so i adjusted the clutch pedal and that worked, it started catching right before i let the clutch all the way out, but then it started catching lower and lower until it would engage when the pedal was to the floor. now i can let readjust the clutch so that it doesn't do this but the same thing happens about 5 minutes after i start driving. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me this isn't the clutch or the pressure plate, or anything that has to do with dropping the transmission, i haven't the tools or the time, or the money to take it anywhere.
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Old 07-25-06, 04:23 PM
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inspect your slave cylinder and clutch line, look for leaks
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Did you replace the slave cylinder? if not try replacing it and the lines, and see if that fixes it.
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would there be any fluid on the ground if there were leaks becuause there isn't any, but could air just be seeping in there.
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so it doesn't sound like anything with the clutch, pressure plate, or actual transmission to anyone? i'll try to go get a slave cylinder and lines from advance auto parts later. thanks for the replies
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no I have never heard of anything like that happening, if it slips or something maybe... but not working then not working.
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sounds like your transmission is bad to me. my clutch is going bad and slips at at higher rpms especially in the higher gears but i have absolutely no problems shifting or any grinding in any gear at all. is there any weird sounds when you push the clutch in or let it out? mine has a nasty whine when the clutch is let all the way out i'm assuming it's my input bearing and throw-out bearing.

most likely your gonna have to drop the transmission either way to find out.
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kinda sounds like a throw out bearing that is getting eatin up. prolly wipe out the disk soon. that will be a sure sign of what is the proble,.. if i were you i would be dropping the tranny any way possible!
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I had a leaking clutch line for a while and it drove fine untill the fluid was nearly gone, then it would start getting a little hard to shift, the clutch pedal wouldn't come back up all the way and I'd have to pump it a bit. It would eventually stop engaging at all. Keeping fluid in the reservoir eliminated any problems.

It would seem that you're experiencing something similiar, but not the same. Have you been loosing clutch fluid at all? Have you tried bleeding the slave? If you notice air in the line then you might need a new slave or line.

My guess would be that it's got something to do with the line or the slave cylinder.
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Originally Posted by mrroboto187
...but then it started catching lower and lower until it would engage when the pedal was to the floor...
Sounds like a bearing... either pilot or throwout, both should be replaced if you drop the transmission. Unfortunately, you're going to have to drop it unless you can find some sort of hydraulic explanation.
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shouldn't the bearing stay messed up like that, i mean i can adjust the clutch pedal out, then back in, and it drives fine for a while. i guess we'll see tomorrow as i will put the new slave cylinder in and inspect the line( they couldn't order one).
anyway thanks for all the replies i really appreciate it.
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Thats why I am saying hydraulic. The bearing would be bad or not bad, same with any other clutch components. They won't work one day and not the next. Maybe need to check fluid in the transmission, but thats not really a possibilty either...
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alright guys upon checking the slave cylinder to take it off i realized it was only held in by 1 bolt, and some jb weld type material, so i loosened up the bolt and pryed it off with a screwdriver, now it's held in by some of that stuff poking through one hole and a bolt. the problem of shifting is fixed(thank god i didnt' have to drop the tranny) but i was just wondering if you thought that would hold up.
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no, that is not a safe situation, you need to fix that correctly, with 2 bolts. if only one of the bolts is holding it on, the slave cylinder will rotate, and not apply force in the correct direction.
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yeah it didn't fix it, i was wrong. how the H would i get in there to drill and tap it out? i also tried to put in sythetic mobil 1 gear oil in the tranny about 3000 miles ago i don't know if that might have had something to do with this but it's really starting to **** me off. what exactly does the pilot bearing do? i searched and only got back 1 response, and it didn't sound like my problem. also is there any way to tell if a master cylinder is bad?
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This problem happened to me, but my clutch fluid in my master cylinder was leaking into the car. So i kept filling it up and i would never see any leaks under the car. Look under your dash on the drivers side, pull up some of the carpet, you'll see like rubber matting with insulation on the other side, pull that up too, if you see a bunch of clutch fluid, bingo, you blew out your seals in your master cylinder. But if your master cylinder is pushing your slave cylinder to push the clutch fork then its not a hydraulic problem. Good luck brotha.........
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