Clutch oh how I hate thee
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Clutch oh how I hate thee
So I finally get my tranny in and most everything plugged up. I leave my friends house where my car is sitting at for the night and the next day im informed weve got a problem. I have no pressure on my clutch pedal. It goes straight to the floor. OK no problem I think to myself... we just didnt hook everything back up. Well, according to my friend, the hydraultic system for the clutch is working fine. The problem seems to lie within the tranny we spent a few weekends trying to get in. It seems that when he presses the clutch fork, he feels no resistance. "It just wobbles around" he says. Prehaps he did not explain it correctly but it leads me to believe that the throwout bearing came off the clutch fork. I really dont see how I could have done this when putting the tranny back on, but I want to know a few things before I head back over there:
*Is there a spring on the clutch fork that is supposed to push it back to its "disengaged" position (throwout bearing not touching pressure plate)? If it does not, then how does the clutch fork get back to its disengaged position when the clutch pedal is released? He may be wrong as the input shaft and the part of the shaft that the t/o bearing rides on is thoroughly greased (although I dont know if it is pressing aganist the pressure plate or not).
*While taking out the tranny, the boot and pushrod of the release cylinder fell off of the release cylinder (and it seemes like a little clutch fluid leaked out from behind the piston). I just sort of put it back together the way it looks in the FSM, but I dunno if its broke or not. I did notice the fluid resivour was a little low after the release cylinder just sorta came apart, so I filled it back up.
Keep in mind the entire system was working properly before I replaced the worn out clutch.
Anyone have any idea what the problem could be? I bet my release cylinder is messed up. Ill take the starter off and look inside anyway to inspect the t/o bearing incase I somehow messed it up.
*Is there a spring on the clutch fork that is supposed to push it back to its "disengaged" position (throwout bearing not touching pressure plate)? If it does not, then how does the clutch fork get back to its disengaged position when the clutch pedal is released? He may be wrong as the input shaft and the part of the shaft that the t/o bearing rides on is thoroughly greased (although I dont know if it is pressing aganist the pressure plate or not).
*While taking out the tranny, the boot and pushrod of the release cylinder fell off of the release cylinder (and it seemes like a little clutch fluid leaked out from behind the piston). I just sort of put it back together the way it looks in the FSM, but I dunno if its broke or not. I did notice the fluid resivour was a little low after the release cylinder just sorta came apart, so I filled it back up.
Keep in mind the entire system was working properly before I replaced the worn out clutch.
Anyone have any idea what the problem could be? I bet my release cylinder is messed up. Ill take the starter off and look inside anyway to inspect the t/o bearing incase I somehow messed it up.
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the clutch fork is forced back by the clutch fingers, which press against the throwout bearing attached to the fork, which also creates the resistance you feel when pressing in the clutch.
have someone press in the clutch and watch the slave cylinder to see if it moves. if it doesn't then bleed the master cylinder fitting and then the slave nipple. if that doesn't work you need new units. if it moves and your clutch still isn't disengaging something is wrong between the engine and transmission.
have someone press in the clutch and watch the slave cylinder to see if it moves. if it doesn't then bleed the master cylinder fitting and then the slave nipple. if that doesn't work you need new units. if it moves and your clutch still isn't disengaging something is wrong between the engine and transmission.
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You'll be fine
Hey man i'm having the same problem right now and i was given the same advice alexdimen gave to u from another person. just do wat he said and it'll b alright. good luck
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can anyone please explain to me how to change the master and the slave cylinders?
my clutch is full on air ... instead of only bleeding it , i think its a good idea to change the cyliners as well !
my clutch is full on air ... instead of only bleeding it , i think its a good idea to change the cyliners as well !
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I would try bleeding it...it takes about four minutes.
Just break loose the bleeder screw. Slip a hose of over it. Put the other end of the hose in a cup of brake fluid. Fill up the resvirour. Then have a friend pump the clutch pedal with his hand until the fluid comes out clear. Tighten bleeder...top of the resurviror. Done
Just break loose the bleeder screw. Slip a hose of over it. Put the other end of the hose in a cup of brake fluid. Fill up the resvirour. Then have a friend pump the clutch pedal with his hand until the fluid comes out clear. Tighten bleeder...top of the resurviror. Done
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There is a weak return spring on the release fork.
It's only strong enough to seperate the T/O bearing from the PP fingers.
It won't return the pedal from the floor because of the pedal's assist spring.
It's really hard to push the T/O bearing off the fork during the tranny install.
If you're not sure, you can just open the access cover on the bottom of the bell housing and have a look.
It's only strong enough to seperate the T/O bearing from the PP fingers.
It won't return the pedal from the floor because of the pedal's assist spring.
It's really hard to push the T/O bearing off the fork during the tranny install.
If you're not sure, you can just open the access cover on the bottom of the bell housing and have a look.
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