Car won't start after oil change.
09-23-12, 01:14 PM
#30
Alright, so I removed the leading plugs and EGI fuse, then cranked it over. Put plugs/EGI back in and tried again and absolutely nothing changed. Is smoke supposed to come out of the spark plug holes? Smelled like oil, I'm assuming from the OMP? Anyway. I guess my next shot would be MMO and could I do a compression test even if the engine isn't warmed up (considering I can't warm it up...).
Here's what the plugs looked like
And this was attached to the engine and went around the front spark plugs. It wasn't connected to anything though.
Here's what the plugs looked like
And this was attached to the engine and went around the front spark plugs. It wasn't connected to anything though.
Last edited by ryan2949; 09-23-12 at 01:18 PM.
09-23-12, 02:36 PM
#34
Just to make sure, does it matter which spark plug wire goes with which plug? I'm not talking about putting a leading wire on a trailing plug since the tops are blue and bottoms are black. I'm talking mixing up the two trailing or two leading with eachother,
09-23-12, 02:52 PM
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The plug wires are labeled on each coil, if your caps are not broken. If you are standing along you left front fender looking at you leading coil the close one to you is L2 and the fare one is L1. Now for the trailing, the left one is T1 and the right one is T2. Anyone correct me if my trailing is wrong. I hope this helps.
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09-23-12, 05:06 PM
#40
Done everything other than the MMO trick and putting 2 stroke oil into the plug holes. Nothing has changed so far, it does the exact same thing as the video. Just going to bring the car to a shop tomorrow.
Has anyone had bad experiences bringing their rotarys to regular shops? I don't want to bring it to Mazda and then have to pay a **** ton more.
Has anyone had bad experiences bringing their rotarys to regular shops? I don't want to bring it to Mazda and then have to pay a **** ton more.
09-23-12, 05:32 PM
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I'm sure the are rotary specialists in Michigan and I'm only 5 minutes from the bridge, but I don't have a passport and the car doesn't run... So how would I even get there.
EDIT: Oddly, that's the first thing that came to mind. I will be driving this car through the winter so many I should piece together the rest of it, aha.
09-23-12, 05:35 PM
#45
a car is a car but an engine isn't just an engine when you are talking about a rotary. a regular shop will just take your money and make a list of parts, likely including a new engine.
worst case, before wasting your time and money at some joe schmoe auto shop, get a tow rope and pull start the bitch with another car/truck. then seriously consider what i said about premixing and/or decarbonizing the engine.
worst case, before wasting your time and money at some joe schmoe auto shop, get a tow rope and pull start the bitch with another car/truck. then seriously consider what i said about premixing and/or decarbonizing the engine.
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09-23-12, 05:40 PM
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You Don't need to go out and Buy any MMO..it is S***,just spelled differently.
Deflood the car as usual but put in a squirt of regular oil,roll the engine over for about 5 seconds,plugs out and then replace plugs,egi fuse and start it up with no foot on the gas.
Your plugs are due to be changed.The electrodes are rounded out.Plus they are dirty.
Deflood the car as usual but put in a squirt of regular oil,roll the engine over for about 5 seconds,plugs out and then replace plugs,egi fuse and start it up with no foot on the gas.
Your plugs are due to be changed.The electrodes are rounded out.Plus they are dirty.
09-23-12, 05:40 PM
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a car is a car but an engine isn't just an engine when you are talking about a rotary. a regular shop will just take your money and make a list of parts, likely including a new engine.
worst case, before wasting your time and money at some joe schmoe auto shop, get a tow rope and pull start the bitch with another car/truck. then seriously consider what i said about premixing and/or decarbonizing the engine.
worst case, before wasting your time and money at some joe schmoe auto shop, get a tow rope and pull start the bitch with another car/truck. then seriously consider what i said about premixing and/or decarbonizing the engine.
By premixing, do you mean removing the OMP or just premixing to rid the carbon build up? I don't know of a store around here that would sell MMO. I'll check NAPA tomorrow.
You Don't need to go out and Buy any MMO..it is S***,just spelled differently.
Deflood the car as usual but put in a squirt of regular oil,roll the engine over for about 5 seconds,plugs out and then replace plugs,egi fuse and start it up with no foot on the gas.
Your plugs are due to be changed.The electrodes are rounded out.Plus they are dirty.
Deflood the car as usual but put in a squirt of regular oil,roll the engine over for about 5 seconds,plugs out and then replace plugs,egi fuse and start it up with no foot on the gas.
Your plugs are due to be changed.The electrodes are rounded out.Plus they are dirty.
I've spent all day repeating these processes and nothing has changed. I have one person saying to try the MMO, one person saying 2 stroke oil in the plug holes and one person saying regular oil. Should I try doing a compression test as well? I'm getting tired of this car, I'm clearly not mechanically inclined enough to own an rx7.
Last edited by ryan2949; 09-23-12 at 05:47 PM.
09-23-12, 05:49 PM
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I filled up with gas the day before this happened and driven 4kms since. How am I supposed to put some 2 stroke oil now. Just put 9 ounces into my gas tank?
Would this help at all knowing the T2 plug was wet and all the others were dry? I cleaned them up after this.
Would this help at all knowing the T2 plug was wet and all the others were dry? I cleaned them up after this.
Last edited by ryan2949; 09-23-12 at 05:51 PM.
09-23-12, 08:59 PM
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My god those are bad. Carb cleaner and a wire brush should help though. And I'll tell you a little story: I sold my last 7 because it was doing the same exact thing yours was and I couldn't get it to start. My buddy I sold it to had it started in a few days. How, might you ask? Poured two stroke oil into the combustion chamber, let it sit for like six hours, cranked it, repeat for a few days. End result: he bought my rx7 that I dumped way more into it than I sold it for, and had it running shortly after. And it still runs.
The only thing I'm happy about is I moved to an S5 rather than the S4, but I miss my LSD and exhaust and the perfect body. What I don't miss, are all the problems associated with S4's and the extra 40k mi on the chassis.
The only thing I'm happy about is I moved to an S5 rather than the S4, but I miss my LSD and exhaust and the perfect body. What I don't miss, are all the problems associated with S4's and the extra 40k mi on the chassis.