Camden SuperCharger
08-29-05, 10:03 PM
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Camden SuperCharger
First of all i know alot of people are gonna flame me for using camden but i know that is coming so there is no use to post that on this thread
I am going to get the camden kit and aftermarket injectors and was wondering what kind of power gain i could get please let me know
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I am going to get the camden kit and aftermarket injectors and was wondering what kind of power gain i could get please let me know
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You won't get **** for power, you REALLY should've researched before wasting your money. Don't expect much more than 200hp if you're lucky and your motor makes it that long.
08-29-05, 10:59 PM
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Yea its sad but true. Honestly the camden kit is more of a motor dress up kit rather than a performance modification.
If you love superchargers, good stuff, but I'll tell you now, there are far better superchargers than the one they got going in the kit.
If you love superchargers, good stuff, but I'll tell you now, there are far better superchargers than the one they got going in the kit.
08-30-05, 08:56 AM
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I just don't get the complaints about this kit. If it adds 35HP or so, that's about all you should expect. Most factory turbo/sc cars are in the +30-50HP range over their NA counterparts - and that's usually with an IC. Look at the S5: 160HP NA vs. 200HP Turbo. Sure you can tweak the turbo for much more, but that's not really the point.
There's a HUGE difference between bolting on this kit, and taking your engine out, tearing it down, porting it, etc etc. One is a weekend project, the other a summer project.
There's a HUGE difference between bolting on this kit, and taking your engine out, tearing it down, porting it, etc etc. One is a weekend project, the other a summer project.
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08-30-05, 09:24 AM
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And there's also a difference in spending $4k when you could BUY the turbo car that yields more power for less. Lets not forget that a couple haven't even been able to get over 180 with this thing. You could do a turbo swap with a standalone and better turbo/injectors for less than what it cost to get that thing to 200+.
08-30-05, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyg
I just don't get the complaints about this kit. If it adds 35HP or so, that's about all you should expect. Most factory turbo/sc cars are in the +30-50HP range over their NA counterparts - and that's usually with an IC. Look at the S5: 160HP NA vs. 200HP Turbo. Sure you can tweak the turbo for much more, but that's not really the point.
There's a HUGE difference between bolting on this kit, and taking your engine out, tearing it down, porting it, etc etc. One is a weekend project, the other a summer project.
There's a HUGE difference between bolting on this kit, and taking your engine out, tearing it down, porting it, etc etc. One is a weekend project, the other a summer project.
If you want a bolt-on supercharger, this is one of your only options. But with a little more work, you can make more power for less money...a TII swap is a "bolt-on" (no custom fab required), or you can use SonicRat's NA Turbo kit, or custom fab your own supercharger (twin screw, centrifugal, etc.) and make a lot more power.
08-30-05, 11:41 AM
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I Have The Superchager For My Car, Im Selling It, Only Because Im In Cal And Stricked Emmissions, So If Your Interested My Names Gil Its Only 9months Old Have The Blower , In Take Pulleys, 650 Injectors Secondarys, Everything!!! Let Me Know Ill Maker Ya Good Deal. PM ME
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08-30-05, 11:49 AM
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No Man Sadly To Say They Guys Doing The Dyno Testing On The Map Ecu Blew The Engine Upppppppppppppp, I Got It On Its Last Leg, So I Rebuilt It, Street Ported It . Now Im Back To Stock After All That Stuff . Makes Me Sick . I Guess Live And Learn.
08-30-05, 12:38 PM
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Yea its sad but true. Honestly the camden kit is more of a motor dress up kit rather than a performance modification.
If you love superchargers, good stuff, but I'll tell you now, there are far better superchargers than the one they got going in the kit.
If you love superchargers, good stuff, but I'll tell you now, there are far better superchargers than the one they got going in the kit.
The idea behind a Camden blower is good, but the actual product hasn't done of anything. I hope someone somewhere can make it work. 35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
08-30-05, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
1) Bolt on
2) Lower PSI setting works with 87 octane
3) Wider powerband than other superchargers (low & high RPM power)
08-30-05, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vaughnc
We're talking about the atkins SuperCharger right? They SERIOUSLY need an AIR:Water intercooler that sits between the SC & LIM. I've been planing to fab their kit with another kit that has an Air:Water IC for a while now. From all my R&D, the 3 main advantages I see with their setup is:
1) Bolt on
2) Lower PSI setting works with 87 octane
3) Wider powerband than other superchargers (low & high RPM power)
1) Bolt on
2) Lower PSI setting works with 87 octane
3) Wider powerband than other superchargers (low & high RPM power)
08-30-05, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
The efficiency sucks too, even with an intercooler it isn't the best option around.
Most of the other SC's dynos I've seen have "sudden power jumps" at undesirable RPMS... not what I want.
08-30-05, 04:35 PM
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the complaints come because these kits are for cars that aren't worth as much as the kits cost and therefore people can't see spending that on them. if it was a bolt up kit for a 2005 car that added 35-50hp, no one would be complaining that it cost 4k.
i'm not saying the kit is done all that wonderfully, but if you look at other car and other kits, it's not far off.
friends MT90 s/c project sees a pretty durn flat torque curve. not a power monster but not bad for a bargain project. a screw or roots type should do this. the power jump you see is probably a centrifugal s/c which has too spool up and then the power comes on much like a turbo with lag.
i'm not saying the kit is done all that wonderfully, but if you look at other car and other kits, it's not far off.
Originally Posted by vaughnc
Yeah I'm mostly looking to comliment the NA engine's better overall power delivery/feel, and to me that means wide powerbands with near 0 boost lag, not overall HP. The NA engine's good at deliveing power from 800-8500rpms no matter what gear you're in.
Most of the other SC's dynos I've seen have "sudden power jumps" at undesirable RPMS... not what I want.
Most of the other SC's dynos I've seen have "sudden power jumps" at undesirable RPMS... not what I want.
08-30-05, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
They aren't any other 'bolt' on Superchargers on the market at the moment.
The idea behind a Camden blower is good, but the actual product hasn't done of anything. I hope someone somewhere can make it work. 35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
The idea behind a Camden blower is good, but the actual product hasn't done of anything. I hope someone somewhere can make it work. 35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
rx7fromcal, that is truley dissappointing. You could sell your kit to the guy who made this thread tho
