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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Camden SuperCharger

First of all i know alot of people are gonna flame me for using camden but i know that is coming so there is no use to post that on this thread

I am going to get the camden kit and aftermarket injectors and was wondering what kind of power gain i could get please let me know

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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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did you look first?

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...n+supercharger
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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You won't get **** for power, you REALLY should've researched before wasting your money. Don't expect much more than 200hp if you're lucky and your motor makes it that long.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Yea its sad but true. Honestly the camden kit is more of a motor dress up kit rather than a performance modification.

If you love superchargers, good stuff, but I'll tell you now, there are far better superchargers than the one they got going in the kit.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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like what...what kinda supercharger...cuz i wanna take on this project.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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well if that is all the power gains i will get does anyone make another supercharger kit that will bolt on to a na 2nd gen?
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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I just don't get the complaints about this kit. If it adds 35HP or so, that's about all you should expect. Most factory turbo/sc cars are in the +30-50HP range over their NA counterparts - and that's usually with an IC. Look at the S5: 160HP NA vs. 200HP Turbo. Sure you can tweak the turbo for much more, but that's not really the point.

There's a HUGE difference between bolting on this kit, and taking your engine out, tearing it down, porting it, etc etc. One is a weekend project, the other a summer project.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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And there's also a difference in spending $4k when you could BUY the turbo car that yields more power for less. Lets not forget that a couple haven't even been able to get over 180 with this thing. You could do a turbo swap with a standalone and better turbo/injectors for less than what it cost to get that thing to 200+.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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I just don't get the complaints about this kit. If it adds 35HP or so, that's about all you should expect. Most factory turbo/sc cars are in the +30-50HP range over their NA counterparts - and that's usually with an IC. Look at the S5: 160HP NA vs. 200HP Turbo. Sure you can tweak the turbo for much more, but that's not really the point.

There's a HUGE difference between bolting on this kit, and taking your engine out, tearing it down, porting it, etc etc. One is a weekend project, the other a summer project.
This isn't a stock supercharger, it is an aftermarket kit so I think people have higher expectations. There are many other aftermarket options that yield more power and reliability for less money. I did my TII swap in a weekend for a total of $2500, with a low mileage Mazda reman engine.

If you want a bolt-on supercharger, this is one of your only options. But with a little more work, you can make more power for less money...a TII swap is a "bolt-on" (no custom fab required), or you can use SonicRat's NA Turbo kit, or custom fab your own supercharger (twin screw, centrifugal, etc.) and make a lot more power.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Superchager

I Have The Superchager For My Car, Im Selling It, Only Because Im In Cal And Stricked Emmissions, So If Your Interested My Names Gil Its Only 9months Old Have The Blower , In Take Pulleys, 650 Injectors Secondarys, Everything!!! Let Me Know Ill Maker Ya Good Deal. PM ME

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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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You ever get that thing working properly before emissions RX7FROMCAL? Last I heard you were trying the carb route?
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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No Man Sadly To Say They Guys Doing The Dyno Testing On The Map Ecu Blew The Engine Upppppppppppppp, I Got It On Its Last Leg, So I Rebuilt It, Street Ported It . Now Im Back To Stock After All That Stuff . Makes Me Sick . I Guess Live And Learn.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Damn, sorry to hear.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
Yea its sad but true. Honestly the camden kit is more of a motor dress up kit rather than a performance modification.

If you love superchargers, good stuff, but I'll tell you now, there are far better superchargers than the one they got going in the kit.
They aren't any other 'bolt' on Superchargers on the market at the moment.

The idea behind a Camden blower is good, but the actual product hasn't done of anything. I hope someone somewhere can make it work. 35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=42973
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jager
35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
We're talking about the atkins SuperCharger right? They SERIOUSLY need an AIR:Water intercooler that sits between the SC & LIM. I've been planing to fab their kit with another kit that has an Air:Water IC for a while now. From all my R&D, the 3 main advantages I see with their setup is:

1) Bolt on
2) Lower PSI setting works with 87 octane
3) Wider powerband than other superchargers (low & high RPM power)
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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We're talking about the atkins SuperCharger right? They SERIOUSLY need an AIR:Water intercooler that sits between the SC & LIM. I've been planing to fab their kit with another kit that has an Air:Water IC for a while now. From all my R&D, the 3 main advantages I see with their setup is:

1) Bolt on
2) Lower PSI setting works with 87 octane
3) Wider powerband than other superchargers (low & high RPM power)
I am, a think an intercooler would help it alot, since I've heard that their intake temps suck.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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The efficiency sucks too, even with an intercooler it isn't the best option around.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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The efficiency sucks too, even with an intercooler it isn't the best option around.
Yeah I'm mostly looking to comliment the NA engine's better overall power delivery/feel, and to me that means wide powerbands with near 0 boost lag, not overall HP. The NA engine's good at deliveing power from 800-8500rpms no matter what gear you're in.

Most of the other SC's dynos I've seen have "sudden power jumps" at undesirable RPMS... not what I want.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Not a whipple powered!
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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the complaints come because these kits are for cars that aren't worth as much as the kits cost and therefore people can't see spending that on them. if it was a bolt up kit for a 2005 car that added 35-50hp, no one would be complaining that it cost 4k.

i'm not saying the kit is done all that wonderfully, but if you look at other car and other kits, it's not far off.

Originally Posted by vaughnc
Yeah I'm mostly looking to comliment the NA engine's better overall power delivery/feel, and to me that means wide powerbands with near 0 boost lag, not overall HP. The NA engine's good at deliveing power from 800-8500rpms no matter what gear you're in.

Most of the other SC's dynos I've seen have "sudden power jumps" at undesirable RPMS... not what I want.
friends MT90 s/c project sees a pretty durn flat torque curve. not a power monster but not bad for a bargain project. a screw or roots type should do this. the power jump you see is probably a centrifugal s/c which has too spool up and then the power comes on much like a turbo with lag.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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I dont car how much my car is, i had better get more than 35-50 hp out of a 4k kit. I seem to remember that the vortech kits for 5.0 mustangs cost that much or less, and added at least 100 hp.
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Originally Posted by Jager
They aren't any other 'bolt' on Superchargers on the market at the moment.

The idea behind a Camden blower is good, but the actual product hasn't done of anything. I hope someone somewhere can make it work. 35 HP for 3800 is terrible, since the older Paxton kit was ALWAYS into the 200+ range.
I never said there was a better bolt on. I said there are far better superchargers out there.

rx7fromcal, that is truley dissappointing. You could sell your kit to the guy who made this thread tho
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Yo whoops Mr. Plague!

If the poster gets lucky, maybe he would find an old Paxton?
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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more people need to whipple charge rx7's, either that or sinkrat needs to do more of them either way, there needs to be more. These camden/m90 discussions suck *****. where's 88IntegraLS when ya need him. That setup he's working on is very nice.
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