Would the camaro win by a land slide if they are both stock?

ps - sorry about all these questions, just trying to get an idea of what this car can do.

 

use

http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ford/performance1.htm

http://car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx

the RS is way slower than the IROC-Z right? If so, the camaro would lose horribly.

 

really? i thought it was pretty fast by the way he was bragging about it....but then again you cant really tell by that, let me find out what year his is so it will be easier to tell

 

The 3.8 V6 in those RS camaros (if it is the v6) puts out around or more than 200hp. I used to have a stock t2 and raced a buddy of mine who had this model and we were neck and neck, no one able to pull more than a coupe of feet. HIs was auto, btw. They dont run bad. Same engine that is in the newer impala.

 

damn a v6 i beat that with my old vert? Not fast at all. A t2 should be a match for a V8 a V6 is a good engine for a buick

 

He thinks it's a fast car because of the torque it has off the line. Those 3.8 L is pretty well balanced about 200 hp? 205 torque? but it drops off after 100 mph.
I raced a newer Z28 on the freeway and it was pretty even until 110 then I pulled away. Then my TII was slightly modded with normal upgrades. An *** in a RS was tailing me one day and pulled along side me. By 100, I was about 1/4 mile ahead. An RS is no match for a TII . Oh yea the best part....that "beast" weighs 3300 lbs.
Race the bastard

 

you mentioned you are trying to get an idea of what TII's can do... well here, read these articles, that should tell you how good TII's really are.

http://iluvmyrx7.com/2ndgen/articles...n_articles.htm

 

When i talked to him, i told him how i was going to get this rx7, he wasn't familiar with the old models, so i showed him a pic, he said it was pretty nice, and asked for the exact model #, he came back a few minutes later saying "only 200hp?", i was like....uh....yea.....what were you expecting it to have? Then he said something along the lines of how he thought he might actually have a real race against my and he was dissapointed that he wouldn't....since i dont really know what i'm talking about, i didn't wanna say something along the lines of how fast it was because i didn't wanna look stupid, but now i think i'm just gonna let him think he can beat me, then show him what i'm made of, lol, i think the one he's getting is a manual, and last i checked he didn't know how to drive stick, so i think i should have this one

 

I raced one a few weeks ago, with a GSX-R 600 in the middle lane. If you launch a TII at 5K, they have a pretty sick launch. I was dead even with the GSX-R until we let off at 80, and the RS was probably 8 car lengths behind..

 

A stock ls1 will eat a stock tii for lunch. Unless those upgrades have you putting down 300rwhp...

 

Oh, I forgot...you were in the passenger seat so you must've seen everything.
Why the **** would I be lying? Don't be raising that ****.

 

Also by "newer" it couldve been a 97 or so, with the LT1. And while these cars are no slouches either, the gearing is terrable for higher speeds, especially the autos. Ive raced a 96 Z-28 in my N/A, and we were neck and neck at 120ish, with me slightly pulling before we had to slow down...

 

1) After 92 the RS Camaros NEVER came with a V8.
2) No RS has ever had an LT1.
3) No RS has ever had over 210hp.
3) From 93-95 the RS Camaro came with the 160hp 3.4L V6 (Some 95’s had the Optional 3.8L V6)
4) From 96-2002 the RS came with the 200hp 3.8L V6 (The series II 3.8L engine which débuted in 98 (I think) was good for ~210hp.)
5) From 93-02 there was no difference in HP between the RS and a standard V6 Camaro or Firebird.
6) 3rd gen RS Camaros (82(?)-92) either came with a shitty 2.8L V6, or a equally shitty 5.0L V8. All were slow, RX7’s need not worry.

http://timeslips.firebirdv6.com/

6.5) LT1 Camaros are killer on the highway. Especially the 6-speed ones of which there are many. Many Auto cars came with 2.73’s in the rear (good for the highway). The only auto car that has a real disadvantage on the highway would be the 3.43 geared Autos. But they in turn have the fastest 1/4mile times of the LT1 f-bodies (even faster than the 6-speeds).

6.75) An “f-body’ is a Camaro, Firebird, or Trans Am.

 

Right. I said "newer" not "new". Those damn F body cars had the same design since 1993 so it could have been any one from 1993. I never said LS1...I said Z28.

 

My friend has a 88 Iroc which with headers pulled a low 15 and my other friend with a 91 RS(v8) ran a 16.3.

My GTU runs a 17.0 usually and I am only a car length behind the RS at times and when me and him raced on the highway he pulled me until around 110 where we were equal.

Take him to a place with turns and have some fun. The rearends love to come out on those.

So a TII will hang if not beat one depending on driver of course.

 

Ok, he said its a 96 or 97, with newer bigger tires and a body kit, no performance mods

 

96 is not newer in my book, thats getting old. They started putting the ls1 in them in early 98 anyway.

 

I thought a stock TII ran mid 14s or something? Those V6 FBod's run 15.2-15.3 on a good day... I used to beat on them in the GTP back when I was bone stock... FWIW they are horrid top end.... and I mean HORRID...

 

RS = Rally Sport = basically just an aero kit to a V-6 Camaro. I can beat them in my 94 cutlass supreme. Hooray for automatic downshift!!!

 

15.3 for a tii. Sure it wasnt a v6 w/ z28 badges (add 30rwhp easily, yo) and exhaust? Lots of those around.

 

Hey! My friend has one of those!!!

 

i raced a guy i used to work with. i had just bougt the car and i only had intake and exhaust and good hankook 17's. at the time my car didnt even idle and was very hard to launch. He has a 88 camaro RS (auto), converted to a 305 with many goodies in it, including full exhaust, edlebrock carbs, high flow intake, some engine internals, and real wide cooper cobra tires. he dyno'ed 360 something at the rear wheels. we raced one night, i was a lil nervous because i hadnt really raced anyone with that car yet. as soon as boost hit in 3rd gear, i was 2 cars ahead. i hit 110 and he was about an 1/8 mile behind. dont worry about those cars. (although today, i got eaten alive by an 01 firebird ram air WS6, :-/)
Josh

 

I always hear about horse power when people talk about how fast a car is .... but what about Torque?

below is a cut and paste from my website:

People often think that the greater the horsepower results in greater speed. This leaves two things out of the equation. First, to reach the greater speed, the car must accelerate (requiring torque). Second, the velocity used to compute engine horsepower is engine rpm, not vehicle speed. Also keep in mind that there are different ways to determine horsepower, and HP is not always measured at the wheels. There are numerous factors in determining what makes a vehicle go fast.

 

Uhhh...No. There is a distinct sound a V6 makes and a V8. You can ramble on all you want since I'm not going to sit here and discuss this nonsense and I'm done with this thread.

Ocelot: Just race him and find out. A car doesn't run by itself. All depends on what the driver does behind the wheel.

 

/If you think so. My turbo vert spanked a LS1 dogmaro. Camaros are great for grocery getters. Or old men that cant afford a vett!