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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Calling Rotary Experts: How do my plugs look?

Yo,


Here are my plugs after 7,000 miles:




It is Leading - Trailing - Leading - Trailing.

I thought I would throw this up for giggles.

How do they look?

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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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It's hard to see just how worn the electrodes are.

You have much less carbon buildup than I do after a mere 5000 Kms.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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yea, a lot cleaner than mine were when I took em out.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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wow, mine were filthey after 5k miles.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Can you give us some engine stats, Kevin?

Mods, Oil brand, MOP (y/n), Fuel octane, Plug numbers (some guys use 9's all around instead of stock 7s and 9s), etc etc.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Yo,


No problem bro:

Mods:

NA 13B
Cone intake
Wired 6 ports
RB DP/HKS exhaust Now...
RB street header/Mazdatrix True Dual

Oil Brand:

Havoline 20/50

MOP:

Yes, but I have been adding 1 ounce of premix for every 2 gallons at fillup.

Fuel Octane:

87 (Lower if I can find it. *grin*)

Plug Numbers:

Stock, 9's and 7's.

Sorry about the pic, it was a quickie.

Kevin
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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They look great to me, perhaps a *hair* lean, but on an NA that isnt a real big deal anyway. But in general, that is exactly what you want. Guys with turbo cars cannot expect theirs to look like that, theyll always be darker due to needing to run richer.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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yea, i figured that judging by the pic it lookiks like you are running perfect. like kevin said maybe a little lean, but a hell of a lot cleaner than anyone else's i've seen.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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Light gray deposits are textbook perfect for NA piston engines and I hear that NA rotaries run best toward 14.7:1 af. anyhow. Running some premix mught help as some types of two stroke oil have detergents in them to clean off engine deposits. But wired sixth ports? Why o why, Kevin? A true GTUs deserves all the low end torque it can get, my brotha.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Yo,

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But wired sixth ports? Why o why, Kevin? A true GTUs deserves all the low end torque it can get, my brotha.
I hear you my brotha. Dana and I are working on it, I just bought a whole buttload of Hose Techniques silicon hose...we're going to replace all the vacuum lines when we put on the ported manifolds.

I'm also going to throw in the Pineapple sleeves at the same time...I need to get on it for SevenStock 6.

It's getting close!

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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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when I changed my plugs 2 months ago they were a darker brown and it was uneven. One side would be lighter/darker than the other side. What does this mean?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by hypntyz7
They look great to me, perhaps a *hair* lean, but on an NA that isnt a real big deal anyway. But in general, that is exactly what you want. Guys with turbo cars cannot expect theirs to look like that, theyll always be darker due to needing to run richer.
I've had a few come out quite black after not too many miles. I assume this is from running rich.

What's the deal when they are orange? Heat I assume.

I've had that happen once. I pulled out the plugs and there was the normal black colour, but had hints of orange. What do you think?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Looks like they could use some boost
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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BTW Kevin (landers)

Could the 'hair' lean on Rarest's plugs be due to wired open aux. ports?

I would imagine so, but your the expert..
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by RarestRX
Yo,



I hear you my brotha. Dana and I are working on it, I just bought a whole buttload of Hose Techniques silicon hose...we're going to replace all the vacuum lines when we put on the ported manifolds.

I'm also going to throw in the Pineapple sleeves at the same time...I need to get on it for SevenStock 6.

It's getting close!

Kevin
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port and match the intake manifold while you're at it!!!

i sure would if i was going to have mine all apart.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Yo,

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port and match the intake manifold while you're at it!!!

i sure would if i was going to have mine all apart.

That's the plan!

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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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they look fine. My come out a lot darker because i run rich. Looks like you are running just a tab bit lean... othersie they look good.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Yo,


Cool man, thanks for all the advice!

This place rocks!

Kevin
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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by reading those. I can tell...














you need a turbo!!
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Scott 89t2
by reading those. I can tell...














you need a turbo!!
I concur.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by Cheers!
I concur.
I got your turbo right here.

Ahh who am I kidding. I'm going to be working on my turbo 13B project by summer '04, so..

NOT in my GXL btw..

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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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Could the 'hair' lean on Rarest's plugs be due to wired open aux. ports?
No, but the full exhaust and intake are where most of his gains come from. Considering s5's rev out to 8500+, it is possible to run a bit lean with these mods on top end but still pull out great.

I would imagine so, but your the expert..
I wouldnt say that, just someone with experience.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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hmmm... here is mine after 12k miles. it was time for a change!

I'm interested in why one is so worn compared to the others.

all plugs were "trailings". crane box on the leadings.




I've gone back to leadings / trailings now.
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Old Aug 23, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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Those almost look like mine when I pull them out. Mine are usually a little more evenly colored though, without the spottiness on the leads but I pull mine after 6k usually. I was wondering the reason my rear leads wear faster than the fronts too, like Scott 89t2 ?
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