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Old 04-14-08, 11:38 AM
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Buying FC with engine damage.

Hey guys,

I got this oppertunity to buy a '90 TII with engine damage without having seen it. I got some pics on which it looks decent, the only problem is it hasn't been moved for 3 years, and it has been sitting outside for all this time.

What would you guys say this car would be worth? Keep in mind that good TII's cost about 7-8 K Euros over here. Are there any problems I might have with a car that hasn't moved from the spot in 3 years?

I actualy wanted a car that needed a bit of work, since I though I can give my own touch, would this be a candidate?

Thanks for you advice,

Riz.
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post the pics...its hard to tell...

if the body is in good shape id say around $2000-$2500 is a fair price
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Hey dude,

Yeah, I requested better pics, should get them tomorrow... So that would be about 1300 Euros huh? OK, we'll wait for the pics...

Thanks!
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hard to tell without pics..3 years of sitting expect the worse though
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Originally Posted by Tofuman FC3S
Hey dude,

Yeah, I requested better pics, should get them tomorrow... So that would be about 1300 Euros huh? OK, we'll wait for the pics...

Thanks!
Who knows. By the end of the week $2000 might = 10 euros at the rate we are going...

Where its at i would say you're on the right track...
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I'm gonna assume that FCs aren't as common in the Europe as they are here (and even here they're pretty damn rare, IMO)...am I right?
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It really depends on the condition of the car overall. I just picked up a 87 TII that had been sitting for 4 years with a 'cracked block' or so the original owner says, for 1300 bux. i had the car running fine within a matter of minutes.
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These are pix of the car:







Sorry for the humongus size, but I wanted detailed pix to show...

Who knows. By the end of the week $2000 might = 10 euros at the rate we are going...
Yeah... LMAO!

I'm gonna assume that FCs aren't as common in the Europe as they are here (and even here they're pretty damn rare, IMO)...am I right?
Furb told me there are only 5 '91 TII's in the Netherlands...

It really depends on the condition of the car overall. I just picked up a 87 TII that had been sitting for 4 years with a 'cracked block' or so the original owner says, for 1300 bux. i had the car running fine within a matter of minutes.
The problem is the car is about 1000 miles away, and it's an auction, so I can't inspect it.

Riz.
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wow that looks nice for sitting outside for 3 years.....here I think the paint would be faded to no recovery
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In the states, no FC is worth more than $1500 when it comes with a blown engine, but since they are very rare in the Netherlands, I might pay more as that one looks in decent shape.
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Whats that green discoloration in spots? Looks like moss growing.
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My father lived in Arnhem, I went to shop called leer-on-leer alot. LOL
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wow that looks nice for sitting outside for 3 years.....here I think the paint would be faded to no recovery
Yeah, here's less sun, more rain!

In the states, no FC is worth more than $1500 when it comes with a blown engine, but since they are very rare in the Netherlands, I might pay more as that one looks in decent shape.
Yeah, I might go as high as 1500,- Euros, conciddering I need to pick it up in Berlin, so that will be extra costs aswell, theres also the importing.

Whats that green discoloration in spots? Looks like moss growing.
Yup moss... Not very unusual in our climate.

My father lived in Arnhem, I went to shop called leer-on-leer alot. LOL
That's pretty cool... What state is VA?

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Can you PLEASE downsize the pics?

As for what the car's worth, it seems like there's a huge premium on FCs over there. That car would probably go between $1k and 2k in the U.S., because one would have around $5k in it after the work it'll need.

It's probably worth more there, though.
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Can you PLEASE downsize the pics?
Yeah, I already said I did it for the detail... I though maybe you guys would see certain spots because of you expierence with these cars.

As for what the car's worth, it seems like there's a huge premium on FCs over there. That car would probably go between $1k and 2k in the U.S., because one would have around $5k in it after the work it'll need.
Realy? 5K? To get it running OK, or to get it in great condition? What would be the thing that make the 5K?

The thing is that over here many of the TII's that are affordable are convertables... Those are about 4K Euros, coupes go for almost double that.

Riz.
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Don't look like it needs much at all on the outside to me, and from what I can tell the inside's probably just as nice. W/o knowing exactly what the damage to the engine is, hard to tell what it might cost to fix, but over here a good rebuild kit is about 800-900 bucks, shop would probably charge around 800-1000 bucks to pull, rebuild and re-install, maybe more. So roughly 2k USD to fix worse case scenario, unless it needs hard parts, like rotors, housings etc.
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Well, I didn't win the bid... I bid 1700,- Euros, which is the max I wanted to spend on a car I hadn't even seen yet.

STill thanks for all your help guys, and in the near future I will buy one.

Riz.
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whoa! biggest.... pictures... ever!

it looks nice, i say buy it.
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