SCCAIT7

Hey guys ... I have an 87 TII. This car has been sitting. Another one of these barn finds...

I have been playing with it today and for the first time my ATF fluid trick has not gotten the engine started ... It did bring the compression back from next to nothing to what sounds like good compression ... However it will not stay running.

It will start if I put some pre-mix into the intake and start it ... However it fades out ... Almost like its not getting fuel ... When it does catch on it does not run 100% but it seems to want to try -

How do you determine when you have enough compression? I do not have a mazda tester ---

Any ideas? What about fuel ... ?? It would seem like even though there is not "100%" compression it should be able to run on its own fuel without me having to feed it ... Even if it is running bad ---

The car has been sitting for about 2 years -

nr2180

I would try a new fuel filter.

sunshine

iTrader: (3)

yeah, check fuel filter, oil, air filter, plugs and make sure its not bad gas (may need to drain the tank and refil with some fresh fuel). Basically all the reg maint items.
-a

killalot13601

iTrader: (5)

Question how much ATF did u put in im having same problem basicly and need to know how much Oil/ATF to put in before its... To much.

SCCAIT7

Too much only means that your only going to kill more flys/nats/bugs.... and foul a set of plugs ...

On another trip down I remembered seeing a red switch in the center ... Fliped it... and it started right up... dumping...pooring out white/atf smoke - It fires right up... However now it does not want to make RPM's ... I am not sure if that is because of the ATF in there -- I probably did put tooooooooo wayyyyy toooo much in there ---

Still a fuel fliter? No RPM's? It starts right up -- so I am kinda leaning away from no/low compression now ...

nr2180

New gas for sure and then a new fuel filter, Maybe blow out the air filter, Don't really think it would be the oil filter.

vato2000taco

iTrader: (1)

replace fuel injectors or have them cleaned

SCCAIT7

Engine will not pull over 3k RPM ... I have never worked on one of the Turbo II's - I assume pull the intercooler off and the injectors will present themselves?

SCCAIT7

Its also still smoking a great deal ... I did poor allot of ATF in there - However the engine has been hot 3-4 times since then - Would have thought it would be burned out by now --- Yes no?

blackedoutFC3S

iTrader: (7)

no it can still be on there, ive never had this happen before but i know someone that finished a rebuild after a few years and it smoked white for almost a week so it could still be there...

arghx

iTrader: (3)

it takes forever to burn off ATF if you put a lot in there.

And pulling the injectors means removing the UIM. Which means you will have a vac job on your hands because it's stupid to pull the UIM on a car that's been sitting and not replace everything... the best thing to do would be to tear the motor down to the bare block (remove all manifolds etc), replace all gaskets (except maybe some exhaust gaskets in good shape) etc

Calabrio

I pulled an '87 Turbo II out from behind a house after sitting there for 12-14 years.
It wouldn't start until I replaced the fuel pump and the fuel filter.... then it ran quite well.

SCCAIT7

Help!! What??? UIM? Vac Job?

SCCAIT7

Well. I started to dig on this thing this morning. Replaced the fuel filter. No dice.

Moved over to the Mass Air Flow - Rats made their home in there -- Chewed the air box - Filter and started on the MAF - I don't think the MAF is working - The idle is surging up and down at times -

My question is ... I pulled the MAF off my 88 vert and put it on ... However it didnt make any difference - Are they the same? I noticed that one has a big "A" stamped on it and the other has a big "B" stamped on it - I would assume that they are different because of the turbo and non-turbo ---
Can I interchange these? Or do I need to find one off a turbo car before it will work?

Car will not pull above 3000 RPM's -

SCCAIT7

Does anyone have an '87 turbo II Mass Air Flow they would let me barrow and then buy if its my problem?

freemanrx7

My N/a would not rev over 3,000rpm. It was in somekind of limp mode. Replaced the AFM with a used one and it ran great.

Rats prob chewed some wires and now the car is in limp mode. You might want to learn how to check everything. Do you have a FSM?

SCCAIT7

Fixed. Thank you Everyone!

freemanrx7

How did you fix it? We all want to know.