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Old 11-20-02, 11:33 PM
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The powerband wont be huge, it will be VERY high. It wont be very usable with it beign that high. Youre placing many times more stress on the components than they were designed to handle. It wont last long without lots of money thrown into it.

The port area doesnt have nearly much effect as port timing. BP's have higher powerbands mainly from the timing. The area is mainly to raise the VE by reducing restriction of the port. The port area needs to be matched to the port timing to get optimum performance. Its very similar to camshafts for piston engines. Ever noticed how longer duration cams always have more lift, even if only slightly? Same principle.
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^BUMP^ for the Aussies. They love crazy ports.
Old 11-21-02, 11:42 AM
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is there a reason why you have to make the bridge port so it opens so early? cant you just start small?
Old 11-21-02, 12:18 PM
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well, our engines have somthing called a side seal. And unfortunately, the side seal goes right by the intake ports. When we make the ports bigger on an engine, if we make them too big, it goes into the area where the side seals ride, and we cant do that cuz oil can come into the engine.
correction. corner seals and it has nothing to do with oil... only compression

I guess I am beganning to think like that as well
It's kind of hard to make good power from a 1.3 liter non turbo. On the rx7.com site they have world record times for rotarys and the factory-port fastest n/a in the world was 14.1 sec in the quater. Which is SAD.
no it isnt hard to make good power. in the all motor class in NHRA a rotary is number one on the points list. all of the all motor guys are going to rotaries. 14.1 is DAMN fast for a stock port. think what you could do with port work....

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Old 11-21-02, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by RX-7Impreza


no it isnt hard to make good power. in the all motor class in NHRA a rotary is number one on the points list.
Its a PP 20B though, not a two rotor...
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OC, Go to any one of the numerous sites that have the moving pics of rotary port timing. When you see them in action you'll realize that when you make a bridge port it advances the port timing regardless of how small the port itself is. Its a function of the location of the "eyebrow" and where the rotor seals the port opening. I was very tempted to bridge my 6 ports, but decided against it in favor of longevity.
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Its a PP 20B though, not a two rotor...
yeah but look what he is up against. 1.3L rotary NA power is not inexistant. you can have a fast car with NA. it probably wont be too streetable. but high hp NA engines of ANY type arent user friendly.

if you compare the rotary to engines with similar displacement, size, or fuel economy engines. it fares well if not better than its *boing boing* cousin

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Originally posted by RX-7Impreza


yeah but look what he is up against. 1.3L rotary NA power is not inexistant. you can have a fast car with NA. it probably wont be too streetable. but high hp NA engines of ANY type arent user friendly.

if you compare the rotary to engines with similar displacement, size, or fuel economy engines. it fares well if not better than its *boing boing* cousin

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First, as of the end of this season, his 3 rotor is banned. he will be back next year with a 2 rotor, which he expects to run about the same times, because it will be lighter than when he had the 20B in.

Second, since when is 300 rwhp(seen it done on a PP, they just dont last that long) nonexistant as far as power goes?
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damn them and banning the rotaries. how is it fair?? if one engine is better than another, isnt that the point of racing??? to find out who is better with what engine??

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