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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:04 AM
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because the act of pre-mixing sux.

Anyone try hooking the stock oil injector to a separate oil reservoir and then go from there? I see that you would need a little pump in the reservoir to get this to work. Has this been done? Anyone have a good setup?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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instead of making a resivoir and crap just x it out.

you can take it out and just put some bolts in the injector holes.

search on this forum somewhere and it tells you how to do it.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:49 AM
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the plan was to use the stock oil injector, but with a separate clean burning oil supply. Now how you u do this if you x-ed out the oil injecter. Remember, its not fun to mix oil with you gas. its better to have something else do it for you!
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:50 AM
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Did you not notice the TITLE OF THIS THREAD????

He doesn't want to premix.

They make a little tank you can bolt over the OMP that acts as a seperate oil res. It's like... $100, but once I get enough spare $$ I'm getting one.

You get the benefits of running 2-cycle oil, and it works with your stock system.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by Liquid Anarchy
Did you not notice the TITLE OF THIS THREAD????

He doesn't want to premix.

They make a little tank you can bolt over the OMP that acts as a seperate oil res. It's like... $100, but once I get enough spare $$ I'm getting one.

You get the benefits of running 2-cycle oil, and it works with your stock system.
Who makes these? you have a link. I use the stock OMP setup ... but it always worries me .. never know on a S4 if its working correctly or not.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:12 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:19 AM
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you still need to have a fully working OMP pump for thoses... it just goes inbetween the block and pump.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:21 AM
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I thought about the face they use 1:100 oil to gasoline, so... it seems to me you could just run a hose from the nipple on the res. to a universal washer res. and pour oil in there. Hassle-free, and when your washer bottle is empty, you still have enough time to put more in it.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:22 AM
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I'm aware Scott. Also keep in mind, you'd need a gasket between it and the block... or does that go without saying?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:27 AM
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I'm aware Scott. Also keep in mind, you'd need a gasket between it and the block... or does that go without saying?
well the first post was talking about putting a small pump into the bottle... not about using the stock pump.

I'm asuming since he is asking, his whole system has already beed removed... so he would need to reinstall all of it first... just letting him know this doesn't replace the stock pump...
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:36 AM
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Very true sir. I'd lost the origional meaning of this post.

I suppose you could do that, but as far as I know, it's never been attempted or done.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:46 AM
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Very true sir. I'd lost the origional meaning of this post.

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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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they sell kiton ebay all day long that uses it's own bottle
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by TurboII RudeBoy
they sell kiton ebay all day long that uses it's own bottle
I've never seen it. Do you have a link?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Oil Injector Pump Adaptors

This seems to be what im looking for, Do you have a direct link to this? i couldnt find it on the site.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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i just did a search for adapter...
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/oil_in...p_adaptors.htm
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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all the haltech users would have to go with the mechanical pump. if not then would the electrical OMP's supply enough oil on their own.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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ah i guess i didnt read right i thought he wanted to use2 stroke premix instead of the stock oil injectors.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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He wants to use the stock injectors to inject 2-stroke premix. 2 benifits: 1) cleaner burning, 2) you can use synthetic for your engine oil. Disadvantage: many people have commented that the stock oil injection system doesn't provide adequate lubrication, so you may not be gaining the benefit of improved lube that premix may offer.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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instead of using the stock (crappy) oil injectors why dont you just premix? i think it would be alot easier. what would be so bad about pouring some in when you fill up your tank?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rs4Racer
what would be so bad about pouring some in when you fill up your tank?
Oil in gas = less octane, Less octane in boosted engines = pre-ignition/detonation, detonation in rotary = $5000 rebuild

Adding 2-stroke to pre-mix is a bitch, what happen that one day on a super long unplanned trip when you need to fill up in the middle of the night and you forget to add 2-stroke?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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well i figure since you been adding it so long it would be basically insticnt
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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Make sure you have enough with you all the time.

injecting oil into comubustion chamber = adding oil to gas = reducing octane, so there's no difference in risk.

ideal would be to add the premix from a resevoir before the fuel rail. That way it would get properly atomized, just like in tank premixing, but you wouldn't need to get out the bottle at every fuel stop since you could keep a gallon resevoir. I still wouldn't want to run out though.
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