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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel


Where do you think the oil goes in the first place? To lubricate the apex seals. And where are they? IN THE COMBUSTION CHAMBER!

"Most of the 86-88 cars we have had the intake manifold off of needed most, or all, of the little vacuum hoses for the oil metering valves. On a few of them, those hoses were the entire poor idling problem. We just get all the hoses (5) and the black plastic "splitter" block, and sell them as a "kit". The turbo cars are much more prone to this problem due to the temperatures the turbo itself generates."


so if i assume correct we definitly need these lines,or should refrain from he much loved "capping action"
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
1 is the cold start ****.
2 is the FPR
3 is the primary fuel rail. Feed it the line from the fuel filter.
OK, I would like to know where to run the vac line from the FPR. I have read a good source of boost? is this correct? This is the only thing thats got me stumped right now.

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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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Dont forget the crankcase? ventilation thingy... other wise it will make you smoke alot.

It goes from your crankcase vent into a lil valve and into your intake. the valve is pressure controlled. when you are driving and whatnot it opens and sucks out all the builtup gasses that would other wise build up and cause a backup in your turbo? which leaks and then smokes.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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Dont forget the crankcase? ventilation thingy... other wise it will make you smoke alot.
Im not sure what your talking about.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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I highlited the system... hopefully you will be able to make it out.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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Well, Im still not sure what your suggesting me to do since all of that is removed. I still would like to know where to connect the line from the FPR.

Jason
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Remove The Purge Control Valve from the "Vacume Spider" and hook it back up using some vacume hoses.

I believe with the FPR just hook it up onto a nipple on the Intake manifold. Unless you still have your ACV (Air Control Valve) on there then it routes onto that.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by FreedS4
Number 1
One of these?
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 04:15 AM
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by gtrr4
Well, Im still not sure what your suggesting me to do since all of that is removed. I still would like to know where to connect the line from the FPR.

Jason
Put the line from the fpr onto a nipple that sees both boost and vacuum.
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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well, im not really sure which nipple is going to produce that, so any help would be great.

Thanks

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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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I believe the second nipple from the top on the backside (facing firewall) will do.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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in this attachment the parts circled in red are connected to the wirring harness, do you remove thiese when you remove the rats nest?
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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Where's the pic?
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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damn i cannot upload a damn attachment anyway in Rs4racers diagram it is the parts labled 1,2 and 3!
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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ok.

provided that you are removing ALL solenoids and emissions equip.

FPR -> nipple on inside of LIM, pointing towards firewall at a slight angle

omp spider -> middle nipple on UIM. its bigger than the other two

boost sensor -> top nipple on UIM

bottom nipple on UIM -> nipple between inj

the big fat nipple on UIM should be obvious

bov -> nipple under bac

three nipples facing radiator should be capped

make sure the spacer between the TB and UIM is facing the right way, or else none of this will work.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:32 AM
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The vac lines on the oil injectors produce the suction needed to close the injectors when the throttle is released. It's a natural form of engine load dependant metering. Low vac or boost and the valves stay open under the pressure produced from the OMP. High vacuum from the engine at idle or lower revs and the valves are pulled shut.

What was said earlier about the vac lines drawing oil through the spider and then into the intake is absolute horseshit. The drawing in of oil from the location of the vac line on the dynamic chamber would cause horrible distribution from this source, if it were in fact one. (which its not) Whoever stated this rediculous idea needs to go pull the big vac line off the manifold and look in it. It should very well be free of any oil.

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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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[img] http://members.shaw.ca/gordons/rotary/vacumespider%20(Medium).jpg [/img]

this is what i want to get rid of it can i? or do i have to keep those sylenoids?
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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damn i am not certain why that owuld not work! but any photoshoping of this would be great to show me what i can get rid of and what i can do without!
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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here is a pic right out of the service manual
the coloured sylenoids on the vacume spider, are these to be kep or ca i get rid of these? if infact i can get rid of these can i simply leave the plugs from the wiring harness hagning will this trip "limp Mode"?

edit: this is getting pretty insane i cannot attach a picture will somebody host it for me so that i can get the answers?
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Old Mar 6, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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K2RD(well, Ted when he was there) made me a block off plate for the Cold Start Assist stuff if you want to take that whole thing off- Makes it much cleaner when your done than a bunch of capped stuff in a space already crammed with crap.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:13 AM
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well this sounds like a good tread , but i cant see even one damn picture.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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xxpezzxx, thanks for bringing this thread back from the dead.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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no problem
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