2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

Attention everyone with a Racing Beat exhaust

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:39 PM
  #1  
HOZZMANRX7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Driving RX7's since 1979
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 6,096
Likes: 9
From: So Cal where the OC/LA/SB counties meet
Attention everyone with a Racing Beat exhaust

I've been reading odd posts about a minor fitment issue. That is, the left (passenger) side muffler sits lower than the right and in additional cases off center a bit to the indentation in the rear bumper where the exhaust tip exits.

Always the left muffler.

I ran into this with my Rev II in my S4 TurboVert. I tried adjusting by taking all the slop out at the flanges to try and get it lined up, but minimal improvement at best. Finally I was able to get things to line up reasonably well by taking to a muffler shop and having them heat the pipe to soften it so I could create a bend by pushing up and to the left on the left muffler.

I just installed an Old School version of the Rev II (not stainless steel and smaller tips) in my S5 TurboVert and everything lined up perfectly with no adjustment.

My request is to everyone that has a Racing Beat Cat Back or Full exhaust, especially the current stainless steel version, that has experienced this fitment issue please replay to this thread.

Trying to determine if I and a few others were just unlucky or if something is indeed different between old school RB and new school.

Thanks

Last edited by HOZZMANRX7; Dec 19, 2008 at 05:44 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:47 PM
  #2  
MidnightOwl's Avatar
2 Rotors, 1 Turbo
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
Mine does appear to sag a little bit, but I had some minor rear end damage that I attributed to the ill fitment. I believe mine is an older one, I got it 3 years ago on my donor car, so I dunno how old it is.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 05:54 PM
  #3  
clokker's Avatar
Cake or Death?
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,249
Likes: 64
From: Mile High
Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7
I've been reading odd posts about a minor fitment issue. That is, the left (passenger) side muffler sits lower than the right and in additional cases off center a bit to the indentation in the rear bumper where the exhaust tip exits.

Always the left muffler.
Mine is just like that.
I too tried to realign it by loosening/adjusting at the flanges- to no avail.

I've just been living with it.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 06:11 PM
  #4  
rotarydriver108's Avatar
The GoodGuy
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 861
Likes: 0
From: Rahway, NJ
ive always read that they only fit rite if u replace all the exhuast hangers i think its ritten on there site to not sure .
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 06:37 PM
  #5  
RotaryWeaponSE7EN's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,937
Likes: 3
From: Mission,KS
My TII Rev system didnt have any fitment issues.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 06:56 PM
  #6  
rotarychainsaw's Avatar
check the join date
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 190
Likes: 0
From: Jersey Shore / Philly
I have the all stainless one, mine is not perfectly center, but I used all kinds of different donuts so I figured that was the reason.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:22 PM
  #7  
KhanArtisT's Avatar
Former FC enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 2
From: Northern VA
You can get different sized rubber O rings and hangers from NAPA or Carquest. Advance auto sucks *** and overcharges for them. NAPA/Carquest will also let you fit it usually to make sure since they're in boxes.

Or you can use hose clamps if you're ghetto and want to save time.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 08:34 PM
  #8  
FRFC3S's Avatar
Partout Performance
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 0
From: .
Mine sits lower on the left.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 09:14 PM
  #9  
10thaniv's Avatar
Life Project.
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 605
Likes: 1
From: BEDFORD, TX
Me too. I bent the upper hanger upward to help it a little.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:41 PM
  #10  
rotary-guy's Avatar
2jz'd fc
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 1
From: Washington- bellingham
kinda like this? this is my old revII system (new style), i think i had the same problem with the true duel set up on my na too

Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:57 PM
  #11  
Natey's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,496
Likes: 1,484
From: West Coast





EDIT: RB True Dual.

Last edited by Natey; Dec 20, 2008 at 12:23 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 11:58 PM
  #12  
rotary-guy's Avatar
2jz'd fc
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 1
From: Washington- bellingham
thats what mine looked like on both systems
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:12 AM
  #13  
Boosted11's Avatar
Pistons are gay
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 0
From: Prince George, BC
Originally Posted by Natey
Underneath the car, not at the tips genius.

Mine does the same. I'm sure it can be corrected by new donuts, that would be the only reason for the twisted look.


Last edited by Boosted11; Dec 20, 2008 at 12:14 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:18 AM
  #14  
Natey's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,496
Likes: 1,484
From: West Coast
Originally Posted by Travis V
Underneath the car, not at the tips genius.
Re-read the original post, Einstein.



Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7
I've been reading odd posts about a minor fitment issue. That is, the left (passenger) side muffler sits lower than the right and in additional cases off center a bit to the indentation in the rear bumper where the exhaust tip exits.

Last edited by Natey; Dec 20, 2008 at 12:23 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:27 AM
  #15  
need RX7's Avatar
Listen to King Diamond.
Tenured Member: 15 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 13
From: Sterling Heights, MI
Originally Posted by KhanArtisT
Or you can use hose clamps if you're ghetto and want to save time.
That's actually not a bad idea, if one side hangs too low, you could just tighten up the clamp to pull that side up more. And it would be a lot easier to install than those ******* exhaust hangers that suck major dick and only exist to cause pain to the exhaust installer. Only downside I see is more noise/rattling, and possible failure of the clamp under harsh underbody conditions. How long would an average hose clamp last underneath a car?
/threadjack
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:49 AM
  #16  
KhanArtisT's Avatar
Former FC enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,841
Likes: 2
From: Northern VA
The exhaust will not vibrate enough to cause rattling with the clamps, there is also no way in hell it weighs enough to be able to break a decently sized clamp. I run them on my car. The only con is extra stress on your metal hangers caused by harsh vibrations from jumps or taking speedbumps at speed, anything that can shake the exhaust enough to momentarily loose support from the clamps. How significant that stress is, is up to you to judge. I'm not worried about it but I'm sure people will chime in and tell you how horrible it is.

I have had four rubber exhaust hangers fail on me in the two years that I've owned my car, they crack very easily and the heat transfer from the mufflers makes it worse.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:56 AM
  #17  
Agent_D's Avatar
rawr
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,331
Likes: 1
From: Silver City, NM
Had a true dual rev 2 on an 89 vert, no fitment issues, using the stock old *** exhaust hanger donuts.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 04:27 AM
  #18  
clokker's Avatar
Cake or Death?
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,249
Likes: 64
From: Mile High
Originally Posted by Travis V

Mine does the same. I'm sure it can be corrected by new donuts...
No, it can't.
The rubber hangers just stretch.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 05:32 AM
  #19  
OutCold's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
From: Norway
**** ur right dude, my left muffler hangs off center too the left and lower
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 08:06 AM
  #20  
Turbonut's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,994
Likes: 68
From: NJ
Yup, when I had the system on the our '89, I had a shop heat and bend the hooks to adjust the left side into position.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:12 AM
  #21  
fc3s91's Avatar
R.I.P Mark( Icemark )
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,912
Likes: 1
From: socal
I have the catback setup and my left one sags.
Thanks Robert
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:42 AM
  #22  
silverrotor's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
HOZZMANRX7, I posed this as a question before. Here Is the thread.

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...3&page=1&pp=15
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 11:44 AM
  #23  
HOZZMANRX7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Driving RX7's since 1979
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (43)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 6,096
Likes: 9
From: So Cal where the OC/LA/SB counties meet
So, to make a list of left can/side alignment issues

So, that's 13 with this left side sagging issue noted within 16 hours of my making this post.

To clarify, I'm not talking just about the left can. I'm also talking about the Y Pipe. Mine hung so low that it was occasionally catching freeway junk and it getting trapped between the pipe and pavement. Much better after a little heating and bending, but still lower than the right side. Like in Travis V's photo in his response.

Keep the responses coming.

Thanks

Last edited by HOZZMANRX7; Dec 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 02:12 PM
  #24  
Boosted11's Avatar
Pistons are gay
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 0
From: Prince George, BC
Originally Posted by Natey
Re-read the original post, Einstein.
Fail times 2 bud.

Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7
So, that's 13 with this left side sagging issue noted within 16 hours of my making this post.

To clarify, I'm not talking just about the left can. I'm also talking about the Y Pipe. Mine hung so low that it was occasionally catching freeway junk and it getting trapped between the pipe and pavement. Much better after a little heating and bending, but still lower than the right side. Like in Travis V's photo in his response.

Keep the responses coming.

Thanks
I know what you mean about this whole issue, it's soooo ugly to look at the car underneath. Not only are you looking at that slant on the exhaust but the gay little spare well that droops down and makes the car look like a pieice from behind.

Might I add, on my install I lost the bolts to hold the donut for he y-pipe up, so that could also be the reason possibly for my harsh sag. I should probly install that this winter while its in storage.

Last edited by Boosted11; Dec 20, 2008 at 02:17 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2008 | 04:42 PM
  #25  
misterstyx69's Avatar
Retired Moderator, RIP
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (142)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 25,581
Likes: 136
From: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
I reused my donuts.BUT,I put some worm gear clamps around them.It improved the Height.It was off on one side.
The exhaust was also not in alignment Tip wise.(one tip was out more than the other),But I could live with that. I attribute that to "eying" up the Turn in the pipe off the Presilencer.
I am running a Pacesetter Header to a Homemade Presilencer.
The rest is a RevII (tii Exhaust) on an N/A.Sounds loud..I said it SOUNDS LOUD!..(j/K!)
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:19 PM.