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Old 11-22-04, 08:53 PM
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anyone running LEDs on their 7?

I was just wondering if there are any owners beside me who use LED in their car.
found a great cite that sells them cheap, dirt cheap ...... www.superbrightleds.com

man they do make a difference.
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where in LA..and got pics of the LEDs in the car..
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I'll take some pics....my computer is down. I'm at internet cafe, but I can post them later.
they look bright much much brighter than regular ones, and they last longer than regular ones.
My voltage is not moving when I turn my lights on.

west LA, La Brea-Melrose

I have some extra if you are interested.
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I have yet to see any LEDs replacement bulbs come even halfway close to the bightness of conventional incandecesents for the tail or running lights.

Even from the site you posted it says:
LED bulbs are generally not as bright as standard incandescent bulbs, they have many advantages over filament bulbs (longer life, faster on/off times, lower power consumption, more vivid colors) but brightness is not one of them

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I'm running.. Interior door hatch and dome light... Sidemarkers... front markers... and currently working on tail lights... They give a much crisper look if you match the color of LED to the color of the lense they are behind IMO they are 1000000x brighter in most cases than incandescent bulbs BUT only in one direction... although there are ways to change that...

check out my website for more pictures... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/395408/3

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Originally Posted by 86GXL
I'm running.. Interior door hatch and dome light... Sidemarkers... front markers... and currently working on tail lights... They give a much crisper look if you match the color of LED to the color of the lense they are behind IMO they are 1000000x brighter in most cases than incandescent bulbs BUT only in one direction... although there are ways to change that...

check out my website for more pictures... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/395408/3
I don't see it... in every picture on your page, the LEDs bulbs are much dimmer and have much less output (fill of the lens).
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Yeah, the car I just bought recently has them, and I don't like them too much. I really don't like the look of them in a car that wasn't designed for them...you just have pinpricks of light in the lens. Also, the resistance is wrong...every time I hit the brakes, the "Stop" warning light comes on. They'll be coming out before I actually start driving the car.
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Originally Posted by Icemark
I don't see it... in every picture on your page, the LEDs bulbs are much dimmer and have much less output (fill of the lens).
Actually the brake lights look brighter, everything else looks crappy. I have the taillights but havent installed them.
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Originally Posted by Icemark
I have yet to see any LEDs replacement bulbs come even halfway close to the bightness of conventional incandecesents for the tail or running lights.

Even from the site you posted it says:

I agree. A buddy of mine got the 1157 (I think) bulbs off of ebay for the brake lights. They had some 15? LED's in a little housing and the lighting intensity and pattern was utter crap. A single bright spot surrounded by a dull glow. During the daylight hours the glow was not really visable and it looked more like a single spot the size of maybe a Silver Dollar that was lit up.
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Originally Posted by Icemark
I don't see it... in every picture on your page, the LEDs bulbs are much dimmer and have much less output (fill of the lens).
The way i saw it... i parked about 10 feet from a wall... and turned on my markers... The LED's lit up the wall no problem... in fact even from further than 10ft... The incandescent's couldnt... The incandescents do fill out the lense more...but they dont project more
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Originally Posted by bingoboy
I agree. A buddy of mine got the 1157 (I think) bulbs off of ebay for the brake lights. They had some 15? LED's in a little housing and the lighting intensity and pattern was utter crap. A single bright spot surrounded by a dull glow. During the daylight hours the glow was not really visable and it looked more like a single spot the size of maybe a Silver Dollar that was lit up.
This is true... 1165 and 1157 style led bulb are NOT bright enough for brake lights because of the small area they cover and the distance they are from the lense... This is why i'm making tail lights with many LED's right up against the lense to project more light.
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Originally Posted by 86GXL
The way i saw it... i parked about 10 feet from a wall... and turned on my markers... The LED's lit up the wall no problem... in fact even from further than 10ft... The incandescent's couldnt... The incandescents do fill out the lense more...but they dont project more

They aren't designed to project, they aren't meant to provide light for you to see by. They are meant to make a big red spot on the back of your car to keep people from hitting you. You could stick a laser pointer in there and it would project hundreds of feet but wouldn't be worth a damn. That was another thing I noticed about the LED's. From an angle that was not straight on, they were much much more difficult to see.
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Originally Posted by 86GXL
This is true... 1165 and 1157 style led bulb are NOT bright enough for brake lights because of the small area they cover and the distance they are from the lense... This is why i'm making tail lights with many LED's right up against the lense to project more light.

Are you going to physically pull the tail lights apart to do this? If so, good luck with that...hopefully you don't crack them to pieces and end up with no tail lights at all.
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Originally Posted by 86GXL
The way i saw it... i parked about 10 feet from a wall... and turned on my markers... The LED's lit up the wall no problem... in fact even from further than 10ft... The incandescent's couldnt... The incandescents do fill out the lense more...but they dont project more
But see it does not matter if you have 1/2" circle of light since you can barely see a 1/2" circle from 50 feet.

With the fill from an incandescent you get a 2" square light that you can see from 500ft.

What about in poor weather conditions... can you see a 1/2" circle of light at 100 yards?

I hope that someone can see you at night before they hit you.
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i'm talking about side markers... not brake lights... and when you look at the side markers from an angle you see the opposite side light up from the reflectors even brighter than the incandescents
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uhhh, the point of exterior lighting is for other people to see you, fill of the lens is what you want not light projected in one direction...
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Originally Posted by Icemark
But see it does not matter if you have 1/2" circle of light since you can barely see a 1/2" circle from 50 feet.

With the fill from an incandescent you get a 2" square light that you can see from 500ft.

What about in poor weather conditions... can you see a 1/2" circle of light at 100 yards?

I hope that someone can see you at night before they hit you.
DO you actualy have LED side markers on your car???? Didnt think so... i'll go do a study from 500 feet and tell you exactly what i see.... if i'm wrong i will kindly appologize and drop the subject
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markers and tailights are for other drivers to see YOU, if you have a directonal light source like and LED you= screwed when grandma is comming in at an angle other then 180 or 90 degrees.
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markers and tailights are for other drivers to see YOU, if you have a directonal light source like and LED you= screwed when grandma is comming in at an angle other then 180 or 90 degrees.
Ya know that ruff surface on the inside of the marker lense??? Its called a light defuser... Like i said before... if you look at it at an angle the opposite side lights up because of the light defusers... grandma will see me
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Originally Posted by 86GXL
DO you actualy have LED side markers on your car???? Didnt think so... i'll go do a study from 500 feet and tell you exactly what i see.... if i'm wrong i will kindly appologize and drop the subject
Nope, I tried a half dozen different types of them and thought they all sucked. I like being seen at night.

I have some laying on my desk at home if you want to buy some more "super bright" 194 bulb leds.

I even tried them with some 3M DBEF (Dual brightness Enhancing Film) film to see if they would defuse and look as half as bright as real lights. This is the same stuff they use in Laptops and Handhelds to make them use fewer bulbs to make the same light.

Still sucked. LEDs just have not grown far enough to use except in custom multi LED applications like 3rd brake lights.

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i usually admit when something doesn't work as well as i thought it would, sure it is different but i don't know if it is in a good way.
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Pics taken just now.... 500 feet pics coming soon


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those things look like they are about to burn a hole in your lens like a laser beam through steel!


from my experience LEDs look ugly unless they are exposed like in 3rd lamp applications but that is a single direction purpose lamp anyhow...
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what is with your LED boner anyway? the only pictures on your site were of your LED "mods." not only are you at a greater risk of getting hit at night, but your slower than you might be if you spent the money elsewhere. constructive criticism.
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I agree with 86GXL they look brighter, and they take less power than regular ones.
Nighttime people are still able to see you.
Now if you guys are talking about heavy weather conditions, like heavy rain, snow or fog, in that case OEM light don't help either.


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