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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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hey kabooski ,what color ,year and model is your rx7?...i live about 2 minutes from castillo on goldenrod .....ive got a black turbo ll
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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**** we oughta meet up at the track sometimes. Im from orlando too.
I have always wondered why ORL. never had RX7 meetings or anything.
Oh well, I may as well stick to steak and shake since I have got a 350 and all.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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If anyone is interested i'll make some and sell them for pretty much cost and shipping, they are PVC, but from what I can see that is the best way.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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The last couple of weeks we have been meeting at K-mart.

I might go to the funday if it's nice weather, maybe take the Protege for laughs.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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TID

I am the one making these and you guys are making some assumptions that are incorrect. This was designed as a drop-in repalacement for the stock TID. I designed it because I too have made one out of PVC, boy what and ugly piece of crap that thing was. This one has much better flow than stock and can be used with the stock airbox or not, with the stock BOV or not, I was trying to cover all the bases with one design. IF you think you can have one made for less good luck, the silicone alone is over $40 and the aluminum pipe is very expensive. If you want more info you can email me at chrissanders@netzero.com
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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i use to go where the old supershop was .......436 and 50 until the cops started going over there......are you guys meeting anywhere else? what days?
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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Blue TII, you said its a stock replacement, does that mean it will work w/ the air pump?

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Matt
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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he can modify it for you if you wish to use the air pump.

V.... My car is Artic Silver
It's a 88 GXL
I have not been to any hang outs in a while
I don't go unless I have My Rex
and she has a broken tranny
but will be getting one from my engine Builder (Jerry/ Big Boyz Toys)
This weekend and hope to have it running by saturday

I'll be racing my car Feb 10th at speedworld
so make sure to be there BogusFile
I want you to tell me how my car looks from behind
cause that the only view your going to get..LoL
and no sneaking NOS either..
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kabooski
[B]he can modify it for you if you wish to use the air pump.

This is correct, I did not design it for use with the smog pump considering most people have it removed. I can however modify one for use with pump in place.

Just so everyone knows, this is no "Dryer duct" it is 1/16" wall chemical grade T6 aluminum 3" dia. Your stock TID starts at 3"(MAF) and shrinks to 2.5"halfway through and connects to your turbo, it is restrictive and has 3 very sharp bends in it.

Oh, and there aren't any 90 degree angles on it, break out the protractor guys, that is a 45. It is impossible to bend 3" tube on a 1" radius, the smallest you can go is 3" radius which makes mandrel bending this part impossible.
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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As far as the air is concerned, it is basically a sharp 90º bend, ie turning through 90º in a very short length. These sort of bends are why you replace the stocker in the first place.
How does it connect to the AFM and the turbo when it appears to be the same diameter throughout, including connectors?
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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 10:37 PM
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Damn, his name looks like mine I was like, "I wrote that?" Guess its time for an Avatar or Sig...
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
As far as the air is concerned, it is basically a sharp 90º bend, ie turning through 90º in a very short length. These sort of bends are why you replace the stocker in the first place.
How does it connect to the AFM and the turbo when it appears to be the same diameter throughout, including connectors?
Your AFM is 3", hence the 3"coupler , the turbo 2.5" hence the reducer. Have you ever even looked at your stock TID? it is obvious that you have not, or you would not be asking these questions and you would see that this is a much STRAIGHTER, much more OPEN design than stock. I am not wasting my time with these questiosn anymore, I was not the one who posted my picture here and I don't care if you buy one. Really it is your lose, if you would like to keep the stock one or build yourself that crappy PVC one , go right ahead. Remember our cars are anywhere from 10-15 years old, NOONE is going to invest the money in R&D to create new products for them, you guys want to wait for AEM you got a really long wait.
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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Well Chris
It's obvious *most* (not all)...2nd Gen owners on this forum are cheap SOB's
That why all the plans for replica spilorer kits
carbon fiber parts etc has FAILED!
cause of negative attitudes of these people.

There a guy who makes custom catch cans for 3rd gens
he sold lots and lots of
them
I was to invest time and money trying to develop one for 2nd gen
I would get negative feedback from 2nd gen owners.

It's shame cause like BlueTII said our cars are very old now
and NO company is going to go out and develop new products for our cars.

RudeBoy tried making some TID's for $80!!!!!
and you cheap ***'s shut him down too.

and he tried selling N/A turbo kits with some other dude that has not visited this site in months
and was shut down also.

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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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Your correct, I think the negative people really want these items but can't scrape together a few dollars to buy it. So, just so that someone else doesn't have something cool on their car they talk about how crappy it would perform. well I have sent out about 15 of these so far and i am sure someone will post their feedback on the product
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 07:24 AM
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Can you make one for a '91 NA?
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Damn, his name looks like mine I was like, "I wrote that?" Guess its time for an Avatar or Sig...
ha ha I was wondering if it was you too, and why you only had 6 posts

But anyways way to go on making something nice for us.
But heres something that might help. May be more trouble, may be just as much

You could cut piece out of the pipe.
If one of your corners was made out of a solid pipe (which it wasnt) you would have had two 45° pieces cut out.
You could possibly have 3 30° or 4 22.5 pieces, then bend it up and weld it. It would make a more flowing bend. It may not make much of an improvement if any, maybe you could try it if not too much trouble
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by BlueTII


Your AFM is 3", hence the 3"coupler , the turbo 2.5" hence the reducer.
I don't see a reducer, just two 3'' couplers in the picture?
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Node

If one of your corners was made out of a solid pipe (which it wasnt) you would have had two 45° pieces cut out.
You could possibly have 3 30° or 4 22.5 pieces, then bend it up and weld it. It would make a more flowing bend. It may not make much of an improvement if any, maybe you could try it if not too much trouble
It is is 30 degree angles, I tried segmenting it more and there was way to much weld it looked messy, and all the segments created turbulence much like a crush bent tube, this design outperformed other designs by far. It can also be used with upgraded turbos like the T04 which has a 3" inlet on the compressor housing, and puts you in a position where you had no option but to make a PVC TID, before I created this one.
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Hey Blue #2,

Don't mind paying for quality craftmanship. Ever make TID's for aftermarket setups? K@N intakes?

peace, Gregg
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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Hey BlueTII (no, I'm not talking to myself...) I love it when people make stuff for our cars! I was just trying to explain how it could be made much cheaper and even more effective so you can sell even more I'll try to attach a pic of mine so you can see what I mean.www.rx7club.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=296094 Be sure to provide a note/sticker w/ any TID mod that it will cause overboost and a blown engine on any 87-88 TII w/ out ported wastegate!
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by BLUE TII
Hey BlueTII (no, I'm not talking to myself...) I love it when people make stuff for our cars! I was just trying to explain how it could be made much cheaper and even more effective so you can sell even more I'll try to attach a pic of mine so you can see what I mean.www.rx7club.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=296094 Be sure to provide a note/sticker w/ any TID mod that it will cause overboost and a blown engine on any 87-88 TII w/ out ported wastegate!
did you notice that his has the placement for the checkvalve
and for the stock blow off

unlike yours
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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Thats right, I forgot to mention be sure you include a checkvalve for open-airing the stock BOV. You can barely see mine just behind the AFM mounting braket, took all of 5 minutes to build that and now it makes a beautiful psoooo sound when shifting.
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:26 PM
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As for the smaller hose, its the brass fitting right before the bend in the TID.
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Bends aren't restrictive in a un-pressurized environment. The only restriction is the total amount of internal volume - and to a smaller degree the thickness of the boundary layer. With the stock hose there are a lot of internal bumps which makes the boundary layer thicker, therby cutting down on the effective internal volume. The smooth metal doesn't encounter those turbulence effects. It will flow better, but still, in a un-pressurized setting, the difference will be negligable. Make it a ram setup, and then you'll see some benefit.
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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I know one MAJOR BENEFIT
no more cracked stock tids
which are majorly prone to cracking
which causes bad idle, poor starting etc
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