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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Got my baby back!.....still broken...

So, over a month ago im driving down the road a day after i get back from vacation in new england and my clutch pedal dissapers and it wont go into any gear. I pull over at a local car wash and call a mechanic buddy well he gets it back to my house then takes it to his garage were it sits for a month without me even getting to look at anything to see what went wrong and all he can tell me is he ripped it apart and the clutch is in fine condition, and engages and disengages just as it should.
Well tonight im fed up and drive it the twenty minute drive back to my house...(im still a tad shakey) the clutch engages way way far away from the floor way farther than it ought to. When changing gears it only will when im going a certain speed at a certain rpm at certian force of my arm pulling or pushing with a most certain grind every once an awhile.
It was a hell of drive home through the town of bellefonte but i got her back finally but it's dark and i believe to late to crack into it just yet but im wondering if anybody has any idea what i might be up against. Go ahead lay it on me. Bad syncros, toasted tranny, maybe the clutch is fucked in the A, or maybe it just needs some fluid of some kind. Im hoping the latter because im in no position to be able to replace a transmission....oh well but yea any ideas?
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Check the clutch master cylinder.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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sounds like what happened when my slave went, could be the master too, replace both and the hose it isnt that expensive and you'll be golden for years to come.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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haha i like those answers cheap and easy.
ill check it tommorow guys
thanks a bunch
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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ya i just did a switch on mine...i had a leak in the line that feeds the slave and decided to go ahead and change the slave and i also picked up a nice stainless steel line...do a search for it...its cheap like 30.00 shipped from a guy on here.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Might also want to check the engagement distance on the pedal. the further out the adjustment bolt is from the pedal the sooner the clutch will engage/disengage. Bring the adjustment bolt towards the pedal to make the clutch engage/disengage closer to the floor.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Have a buddy push the pedal while you look at the slave. If the slave isn't pushing the fork you have a problem in the slave or master. If the slave has full travel then you have a problem with the fork (bent or broken) or your friction disc is broken or worn disc fingers.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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This happened to me twice. Im not sure how to explain it but theres a ball on the transmission that came off. I had T and R fix it. He had to weld it back on. The same signs you said happened to me. It would release at a VERY HIgh point. Also the clutch was very heavy. Maybe th same happend to you.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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I left out that before it started doing the high release thing. The clutch also got stuck to the floor. I had to pump it up manually.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Im not sure about this missing ball thing haha and the pedal never got stuck to the floor so i dont know about that.

But i got to take a look at it and it seems that the master has deffinetly been replaced while at the "garage" and it seems the slave was too but not 100% on that. Had my girlfriend push in hte clutch and everything seems to be working as it ought the slave is pushing the clutch fork but i have no clue on if its "full travel" could Wizz reiterate on that?

Im going to mess with the engament bolt or whatever that is if i can find it (the guy at the garage forgot to give me my haynes manual back.

Also when its running when i let out the clutch there is a whirring noise that i told the guy of while he had it. I know its the throw out bearing but he said he took it all apart and hte problem lies not within the clutch but something else. Yea well the whirring noise is still there an i know its not good. Any ideas on that.

Im thinking of just getting a whole new clutch kit and replacing everything including tob just to know that it then it couldnt for sure be in the clutch and its stock clutch at 136K so ill sleep better at night anyway. Then ill see from there if the problem persists.

Thanks for all the input and anymore is welcome if anybody knows anything else.

Matt
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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anybody have an idea whats going on

I had another thread but nobody replys if the thread isnt new


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Symptoms
-With car off just sitting without clutch in the gear selector can be placed in first third fourth and fifth without disengaging clutch.

-When driving with clutch in it will shift but only when it feels like it (certain speed\certain rpm) sometimes takes a tad bit of force and a small grinding sound is heard.

-When driving and clutch is in (supposed to be disengaged) the rpms dont drop they stay right were they were when clutch was disengaged.

-When disengaging clutch the pedal.....squeaks and is kinda spongy.

-When driving the clutch catches really far off the floor alot farther than it always has.

-When the letting out the clutch pedal a whirring sound is heard. I have a good idea this is the throw out bearing.

From this im getting that the clutch is neither engaging nor disengaging but somehow I can still drive it its just not fun.

Master cylinder and slave cylinder have been replaced and bleeded i should hope ( i didnt do the master and slave it was done by the guy who picked up the car when it decided to stop shifting one day and i had to pull over and call to get it picked up from the car wash i had coasted into.)

The guy had the car for a month i was pissed and took it back when he said the clutch is fine and its drivable well yea its drivable but barely all he had to say he did in a months time was he took it apart and said the clutch looks good when i got it back i found out i had a new master and slave cylinder. He (the mechanic) has no idea whats wrong with it.

My neighbor who comes over everyonce and awhile when he sees that im having problems with my 7's says that the only thing he can think of is that my tranny is shot or it just needs fluid which i will check asoon as i can get it off the ground.

I believe the cluprit is the throwout bearing but the mechanic says its good because he looked at it and the neighbor guy says its good because of some thing he did in my driveway (something put it reverse then first and so on) and said it was fine. But i still think its it because well maybe the whirring sound that is heard everytime i depress the clutch might be one of those bad things.

Anyway here is what i know and if anybody has any idea what the problem is i would be much obliged.

My next action is going to just be to buy a clutch kit and replace everthing that is to be suspect one by one untill its fixed unless somebody can give me some accuracy in my guesses.

thanks
Matt
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Replace the clutch, and replace the throwout bearing and pilot bearing and properly bleed the slave cylinder. If that does not fix it then your syncros in the tranny are gone. GL!
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Thats what i was thinking. just needed some reisurance
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Matt
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Threads merged.

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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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eh......thanks?
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