Any downside to using 2 tralling coil packs instead of 1 of each?
12-31-04, 09:46 PM
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That might be it.. When you were cranking did you get RPM signal to your laptop or hand controller? I didnt, so I called up Chris and he told me to put a 1k ohm resister between the blue green and the brown white wire at the wolf3d connector (for CAS). Cuz what was happending with mine was it was getting picked up if I took the CAS out and spun it with my hand. The lowest it could pick up was 235rpms, with the resister in there, it picks up all the way down to 60rpms. Just giving you a heads up on possible problems.
Disconnect your trailing coils until you get the correct igniter. I was told it could blow your wolf3d. Oh yes one word of advice... run nyt's map as the base because my car starts up and idles so good that it surpised the **** out of me. Then I switched over to Chris's map on the fly while I was idling and bam my car died. If your using the stock CAS (unmodified) just tell me and I can send you nyt's map modified to work with the stock CAS. Even with the trailing coils disconnected my idle is so smooth and the car drives like a dream.
Disconnect your trailing coils until you get the correct igniter. I was told it could blow your wolf3d. Oh yes one word of advice... run nyt's map as the base because my car starts up and idles so good that it surpised the **** out of me. Then I switched over to Chris's map on the fly while I was idling and bam my car died. If your using the stock CAS (unmodified) just tell me and I can send you nyt's map modified to work with the stock CAS. Even with the trailing coils disconnected my idle is so smooth and the car drives like a dream.
12-31-04, 10:10 PM
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Yes you can run only the leading without a problem, I did it for a while before I had my trailing ignitor/coils all sorted aswell.
and I can I quite seriously cannot feel a difference if they're connected or not... at all..
and I can I quite seriously cannot feel a difference if they're connected or not... at all..
12-31-04, 10:58 PM
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I did get a trigger signal, the car would fire, but wouldnt start, im pretty sure the cas isnt set right and my friend had already left.. so no checking the timming for me (is the stock setting 60* )
However I kept having the wolf revert back to duel pulse not reference+sync and when that would happen, it would say i was cranking at 1500 rpm...
Hm, ill disconnect my trailing coil in the morning right away. Im also using nyt's maps to try to start with, ijust disabled all the frill's that he had enabled (turbo timer, fan etc)
Did you change your Start enrichment stettings? nyt's map was giving me somthing like 17ms to start with, seemed rather high to me
I belive i have the correct settings for the unground cas, ref+sync, , 0 , 0 and 5 right? rising edge also iirc
-Jacob
However I kept having the wolf revert back to duel pulse not reference+sync and when that would happen, it would say i was cranking at 1500 rpm...
Hm, ill disconnect my trailing coil in the morning right away. Im also using nyt's maps to try to start with, ijust disabled all the frill's that he had enabled (turbo timer, fan etc)
Did you change your Start enrichment stettings? nyt's map was giving me somthing like 17ms to start with, seemed rather high to me
I belive i have the correct settings for the unground cas, ref+sync, , 0 , 0 and 5 right? rising edge also iirc
-Jacob
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12-31-04, 11:42 PM
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ref_sync, 0, 4, 5 is the correct way. That was how it was set on the base map chris sent me so thats how I configured nyt's map. Also make sure if you used the option 1 to wire up your CAS, that under Configuration -> Sensor Setup -> Trigger 1... make sure that the rigger Polarity is set to Rising Edge. Falling edge is for if you wired your CAS using option 2 on the CAS diagram.
12-31-04, 11:46 PM
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Oh yea to answer your other questions... no I didnt change enrichment or anything on nyt's map because my car ran like a champ with it. Yes stock timing is 60 degrees.
I finally got to drive my car... only drove it down my street because I dont have it registered yet. Well kinda sux it was wet because whenever I started to boost all traction would be lost. Ahhh I love boost.
I finally got to drive my car... only drove it down my street because I dont have it registered yet. Well kinda sux it was wet because whenever I started to boost all traction would be lost. Ahhh I love boost.
01-01-05, 10:18 PM
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4? what was set to 4?
That could be my problem, because i started at the stock mark however it sill wouldnt start
Mind sending me your map your using to start with if you get a chance?
jacob@volumetric-efficiency.com
-Jacob
That could be my problem, because i started at the stock mark however it sill wouldnt start
Mind sending me your map your using to start with if you get a chance?
jacob@volumetric-efficiency.com
-Jacob
01-01-05, 11:44 PM
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I looked over the V4 manual again, and the wiring seems to be set up similar to my V3. And no mention of not using the stock coils.
I find it hard to believe that you cannot use the stock trailing coilpack, since people who upgraded from V3 to V4 where able to use their 'old' harness, and basically just plug in the new EMS with some minor adjustments.
Also, the v3 to v4 compatibility chart shows the same pinouts for the 3 IGN channels.
I find it hard to believe that you cannot use the stock trailing coilpack, since people who upgraded from V3 to V4 where able to use their 'old' harness, and basically just plug in the new EMS with some minor adjustments.
Also, the v3 to v4 compatibility chart shows the same pinouts for the 3 IGN channels.
01-02-05, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CrackHeadMel
4? what was set to 4?
That could be my problem, because i started at the stock mark however it sill wouldnt start
Mind sending me your map your using to start with if you get a chance?
jacob@volumetric-efficiency.com
-Jacob
That could be my problem, because i started at the stock mark however it sill wouldnt start
Mind sending me your map your using to start with if you get a chance?
jacob@volumetric-efficiency.com
-Jacob
01-02-05, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by eViLRotor
I looked over the V4 manual again, and the wiring seems to be set up similar to my V3. And no mention of not using the stock coils.
I find it hard to believe that you cannot use the stock trailing coilpack, since people who upgraded from V3 to V4 where able to use their 'old' harness, and basically just plug in the new EMS with some minor adjustments.
Also, the v3 to v4 compatibility chart shows the same pinouts for the 3 IGN channels.
I find it hard to believe that you cannot use the stock trailing coilpack, since people who upgraded from V3 to V4 where able to use their 'old' harness, and basically just plug in the new EMS with some minor adjustments.
Also, the v3 to v4 compatibility chart shows the same pinouts for the 3 IGN channels.
I have no idea, found this thismorning though
http://wolfems.com/products/enginema...arotaryengines
Thanks for sending me the map Net Seven, ill try it out in a few hours
-Jacob
01-02-05, 01:44 PM
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You can also use the leading ignition coil and coil igniter, although it is far better to have 2 single ended coils for the leading sparkplugs on high performance engines. You can use the trailing coils, but you cannot use the trailing coil igniter. It requires a specific signal from the ECU with the Wolf3D does not support at this time.
01-03-05, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
So let me get this straight...
The v3 could use the stock trailing oil pack, but the v4 and v4+ CANNOT???
That's just bizzare...
-Ted
The v3 could use the stock trailing oil pack, but the v4 and v4+ CANNOT???
That's just bizzare...
-Ted
This gives people the option now of using aftermarket ignitors...
Either a dual channel one or two individual ones.
Before you would have been stuck with using the stock FC unit because of the trigger and switch style.
01-03-05, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by White_FC
Not so bizare at all..
This gives people the option now of using aftermarket ignitors...
Either a dual channel one or two individual ones.
Before you would have been stuck with using the stock FC unit because of the trigger and switch style.
This gives people the option now of using aftermarket ignitors...
Either a dual channel one or two individual ones.
Before you would have been stuck with using the stock FC unit because of the trigger and switch style.
01-03-05, 07:52 PM
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But not everybody, in fact i'd say probably most people, that buy a wolf 3d for their 13b don't have the stock coils, ie a conversion. Over here that seems to be the case anyway.
They can't give you the two options because then they'd have to add another output to the unit with probably much more complex programming.
They can't give you the two options because then they'd have to add another output to the unit with probably much more complex programming.
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