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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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87 turbo is worth????

I am selling my completely stock 87 Fc with 202,000kms. It runs a drives great, just wondering what to sell it for and what to expect to get.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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When was the engine rebuilt, and when were the shock absorbers, springs, bushings, and mounts replaced? Also, how many kms are on the new LSD clutches?
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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I am selling my completely stock 87 Fc with 202,000kms. It runs a drives great, just wondering what to sell it for and what to expect to get.
Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
When was the engine rebuilt, and when were the shock absorbers, springs, bushings, and mounts replaced? Also, how many kms are on the new LSD clutches?
That's sad that we have to assume the engine was rebuilt at that mileage with our motors
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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202k kilometers is about 125k miles btw
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7 SE
That's sad that we have to assume the engine was rebuilt at that mileage with our motors
That is only because the OP stated that the car runs and drives great. I am not aware of any internal combustion engine in the world that runs and drives great with that much wear.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Sorry, yes the engine has been rebuilt at around 100k(kilometers). I am the third owner, and the guy a bought it from said he bought it in 93 from the dealership. It was a trade in and i have all receipts with all service records.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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I am not aware of any internal combustion engine in the world that runs and drives great with that much wear.
Mercedes diesel.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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^Forget diesels, any modern, fuel injected, piston gas engine won't have much appreciable difference in power with 125k miles, from when it was new. WIth modern low tension rings and precise machining, you won't even be able to measure much cylinder wear at that kind of mileage in a maintained engine. Should only have to change a timing belt and spark plugs by that service interval. But thats way off topic here.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 93_jdm_fd
Sorry, yes the engine has been rebuilt at around 100k(kilometers). I am the third owner, and the guy a bought it from said he bought it in 93 from the dealership. It was a trade in and i have all receipts with all service records.
So the suspension and LSD clutch pack has been replaced too? I only ask that because those parts are pretty expensive to replace, and usually wear out right about now.

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Mercedes diesel.
I guess I should have specified that it wouldn't drive well with that much wear on a sports car application, lol. Engines tend to last a lot longer if they spend the majority of their time operating at 1,800-2,400rpm cruise. Put a Mercedes Diesel in an RX-7 driven by a teenager and we will see how tough it really is.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
When was the engine rebuilt, and when were the shock absorbers, springs, bushings, and mounts replaced? Also, how many kms are on the new LSD clutches?
pessimist.

Anywho, I've heard that most engines tend to run better in their last few miles before losing compression? Well there is a lot of factors that go into longevity, but I know my best friend recently bought an 86' RX-7 sport from the original owner and the odometer shows around 365,000 miles on it now. All service records were kept, the original engine made it to 289,000 miles! btw, the original owner has tracked this car and autocrossed it regularly, he had a lot of performance parts on it.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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My good ole Ford Mod motors are known to go 400-500k...
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
That is only because the OP stated that the car runs and drives great. I am not aware of any internal combustion engine in the world that runs and drives great with that much wear.
my GF's turbo diesel mercedes has 500k miles original, runs and drives great. course a geo metro could outrun it but eh..
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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www.kbb.com will tell you how much your car is worth. The poor people on this site accustomed to buying and fixing beat up cars will probably low ball you .
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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I ended up selling it last night for $5500, wow. Anyway the diff fluid had been changed a few times but never had clutches replaced or rebuilt. I bought a fully rebuilt t2 diff last year for $150 so it wouldn't be a huge deal if the owner now had to replace it. Part here in Canada for FC and FD's are pretty much everywhere and are pretty cheap.

Anyway I bought another FC non turbo have have some cold start issues, lol.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Apparently some people on this forum think that anything that is still running is running great, lol.

Originally Posted by therotaryrocket
pessimist.
- Pessimist
- Realist
- Over 20 years of experience in the RX-7 FC community, and knows the typical mileage of these cars.
- Over 20 years working with the DOT, and knows that the DOT statistics show that an average car lasts less than 130K miles... and that means working, not working well. (Although cars currently produced are expected to surpass that by quite a bit).
- Correctly determined that the OP's car had an engine rebuild.

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Anywho, I've heard that most engines tend to run better in their last few miles before losing compression?
That isn't a valid blanket statement because it would depend on too many factors, and I think it would generally be false. Also, engines usually start to lose compression long before they fail due to age, so I think it would be extremely difficult to determine the exact point at which an engine is running on its last few miles before losing compression.

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I ended up selling it last night for $5500, wow.
Yeah, that's way more than it is worth.

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I bought a fully rebuilt t2 diff last year for $150.
Somebody lied to you. The parts alone are nearly $700 retail.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Nice sale. Did you give him some drugs with the car?
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kbb.com doesnt mean everything but helps along the lines of a fair price...sorta
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Apparently some people on this forum think that anything that is still running is running great, lol.

Over 20 years working with the DOT, and knows that the DOT statistics show that an average car lasts less than 130K miles... and that means working, not working well. (Although cars currently produced are expected to surpass that by quite a bit).
I disagree with this statement. I've had better luck keeping my first gen on the road without blowing up the engine than any other car. I tend to drive the **** out of every car I have and blew a few engines in less than 6 months. Knock on wood I've had the FB for a year now and still runs great. I only has like 16000 on the motor now, but I thought for sure with the reputation people give these motors I'd of blown her up by now. I ate a timing belt after 10000 since it was replaced. I had the head and cam built (ported, reground cam, stiffer springs) I replaced it with a duralast belt, witch is not very durable and it didn't last. I should sue.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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Nice sale. Did you give him some drugs with the car?


lol ^ half pound of crack/cocaine ? some mary J ? lol but seriously who pays 5500 for a 22 year old car , it must of been mint but i doubt it especcially in canada
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Originally Posted by jinxed4dub
Knock on wood I've had the FB for a year now and still runs great. I only has like 16000 on the motor now, but I thought for sure with the reputation people give these motors I'd of blown her up by now. I ate a timing belt after 10000 since it was replaced. I had the head and cam built (ported, reground cam, stiffer springs) I replaced it with a duralast belt, witch is not very durable and it didn't last. I should sue.


uhm correct me if im wrong but i dont think rx7s have any heads or cams ? or timing belts ?
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Originally Posted by jinxed4dub
I disagree with this statement. I've had better luck keeping my first gen on the road without blowing up the engine than any other car. I tend to drive the **** out of every car I have and blew a few engines in less than 6 months. Knock on wood I've had the FB for a year now and still runs great. I only has like 16000 on the motor now, but I thought for sure with the reputation people give these motors I'd of blown her up by now. I ate a timing belt after 10000 since it was replaced. I had the head and cam built (ported, reground cam, stiffer springs) I replaced it with a duralast belt, witch is not very durable and it didn't last. I should sue.
i'd have to say all your problems are from your own neglection. Luckily the rotary has been working best for you and you been taken better care of this engine over most your others. (A new timing belt should never fail around 10k) And what is a reground cam? Been so far away from pistons i just dont understand this term.
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my GF's turbo diesel mercedes has 500k miles original, runs and drives great. course a geo metro could outrun it but eh..
Geo metro couldnt last longer than a Mercedes diesel any time. Nor be faster...
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Originally Posted by PnoyRx7
uhm correct me if im wrong but i dont think rx7s have any heads or cams ? or timing belts ?
that car wasn't an rx-7 it was piston powered I guess I forgot to say my last car before I went rotary. thats why I went to the dark side.

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i'd have to say all your problems are from your own neglection. Luckily the rotary has been working best for you and you been taken better care of this engine over most your others. (A new timing belt should never fail around 10k) And what is a reground cam? Been so far away from pistons i just dont understand this term.
No it was just a crappy belt all the teeth sheered off it in one quick motion. they were all still in one peice at the bottom of the timing belt cover. all acounted for. I always take car of my cars since I'm so ruff on them. I had about 12G's in that car.

Reground cam's have been welded over and put on a lathe to have longer duration and lift poor mans performance cam. My step dad did it before he retired from the railroad. I do admit I have some kind of unnatural love for the rotary engines though.
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I had a GSLSE with 400,000 miles on the clock and still going strong when I sold it. My wife’s POC Jeep has 180,000 miles on it and still running strong. My daughters SC5400 is pushing 300,000 and the engine and entire drivetrane is still going strong.

Longevity is all about the level of care you give. Unfortunately you can never tell about the history of care a used car received as every owner will swear it received the best.
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Originally Posted by jinxed4dub
Reground cam's have been welded over and put on a lathe to have longer duration and lift poor mans performance cam. My step dad did it before he retired from the railroad. I do admit I have some kind of unnatural love for the rotary engines though.
Wow im surprised i havent heard of this before. Learn something new everyday.
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