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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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86 GXL turbo able?

I bought this 86 gxl and the mechanic by me said theonly thing I can do is either basically buy a rx7 turbo or put 15000 in it so it will be compatible.I personally think thats bs and I was wondering if there was any other way to turbocharge it?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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15K?! Lmfao

For that you could buy a nice FD

A turbo 2 engine swap is the best/easiet way, although with enough determination and some know how turboing an NA is possible.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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You can buy a s4 13bt and swap it in your car. I used my n/a harness it was plug and play basically. You can import an engine for $900.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Where can I get it from?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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I personally found my motor from a local forum member for $300 : )
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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What about like jdm depot or something?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Of course, but when buying a used engine you are playing russian roulette so i would recommend rebuilding the engine while you have it out of the car.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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What do you mean?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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You may receive the engine and it will be blown. You could turbo an NA engine for a few hundred bucks. Unless it has been rebuilt recently why bother when you can get a T2 engine for $1000 or less. That way you could either sell the NA engine for a couple hundred to recoup the T2 cost. OR you could keep it as a backup engine if you blow the turbo.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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So what would I have to do to my na 13b to turbocharge it?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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I've never done it honestly, but I'm pretty sure you use all the regular OEM T2 turbo parts and use an adapter plate to mate the manifold. You need to block things off and wire stuff up and run Vac lines etc. You may have to do something to your 6 ports.

Just buy a complete engine swap.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Yea,how much do you think a complete would run?
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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That's already been covered. Price out an engine, price out labour. Are you doing it yourself or not? Factor in a rebuild into it, which can run from $200 if you need minimal parts to $1500 if your **** is all messed up. Buying a used T2 is always risky, but as long as it's running/making compression, you shouldn't need a ton of parts for the rebuild.
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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search 6 port turbo
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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i will do the swap for you for $15k...
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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haha dam boy read!! search the faqs! quit askin the same ??'s over and over..this has been covered before..but on a different note if you are new to rotaries i think you should figure out your NA first...before you go off and turbo the **** out of it.. get a little experience under your belt you know? GXL FTW!
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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Copied directly from the FAQ:

Can I swap a Turbo engine/Jspec engine/13BT/etc into my Non Turbo?
Yes, check these links:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=26647
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/ro...conversion.htm


What Turbo kits can I add onto my non turbo RX-7?
There are no longer kits formally made at the time of this post, however there are companies from time to time that do make available non turbo to Turbo Kits. Because most of these companies stop building the kits, or go out of business in short time, it is impossible to keep active links for them.

Most people that turbo a non turbo make their own kits:
Using the stock TII turbo, exhaust manifold with spacer, NA intakes and NA ECU:
http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/naturbo.htm
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=88540

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=88758
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=124232
http://users2.ev1.net/~ccoutts/turbo..._a_project.htm

Using the stock TII turbo, exhaust manifold, intakes, ECU:
http://forum.teamfc3s.org/showthread.php?t=37694

Turbo-NA Forum:
http://www.aaroncake.net/forum/forum...urbocharged+NA
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Dude dont give me that yoda bs.Im new to Rx7's not to driving.But thanks everyone.

Oh and Im going to get someone to install it

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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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It' not Yoda BS. It's good useful information based on your question. Should have bought a Honda.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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heres my 86 GXL
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unless you are going stand alone, good luck, its a bitch of a swap.

BTW the 86 wiring does not jive with any of the other s4 wiring.. i had so many wiring diagrams it was unbelievable. the s5, the s4, and the 86 models wiring all differs from eachother.

its a pretty sweet swap because you get the best of both worlds. 86's are the lightest year, and if you do what i did which was swap an s5 motor into which is the most powerful you get a pretty sweet set up.

but even if you swap an s4 into it, the wiring is still gonna be a bitch do to the 86 being the only year the 7 wasnt made turbo for the fc series.

thats if you want to keep the stock harness, but if you go stand alone, just make your own harness and hook that **** up.

If you have any question ask someone whose done the swap before... Ill be happy to ask any of your questions instead of the guys on here who live off making fun of people.

BTW the series swap guides are helpful.. but dont count on them, Theres still alot more to it. Especially if you do a series swap.

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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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That's a 4 port turbo though correct?
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Lets not forget that with the swap you're going to want to seriously consider getting the entire turbo drive train to go with it, or else run the risk of breaking something important while on the freeway.

Such drive trains can be sometimes found in the for sale sections.
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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NA trans and clutch is fine for a stock turbo motor if they're in good order. They should be able to hold 200 hp. Of course more power means they will wear out faster, but they won't just explode or something.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Evergreenslider
Dude dont give me that yoda bs.Im new to Rx7's not to driving.But thanks everyone.
I'm not sure what an uninspired George Lucas franchise based on characters stolen from westerns and samurai films have to do with RX-7s.

That said, the links I posted directly answer all your questions.

There are three main ways to turbocharge you car, covered in the FAQ links:

1. Do a TII swap. Swap the TII engine, drivetrain, ECU, etc. into the NA. This is a direct bolt-in and makes the car into a TII.

2a. Turbocharge the NA engine. Fabricate manifolds and plumbing, and build the system from scratch. Generally this is not an option unless you are doing the work due to the large amount of effort required.

2b. Turbocharge the NA engine. Bolt the TII stuff (manifolds, turbo, etc.) onto the NA engine. Some slight modifications are required to the TII stuff but it's far less involved then 2A.

Also, make sure to do us in the forum the basic courtesy of reading the FAQ before asking a question that has been asked 10,000 times already this month. In general, these topics are closed by the moderators due to their hourly occurrence.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
I'm not sure what an uninspired George Lucas franchise based on characters stolen from westerns and samurai films have to do with RX-7s.
If you assume that "yoda" is just a personification of the FSM, it all makes perfect sense.

OK, no it doesn't.



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