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Old Sep 22, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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5th and 6th ports actuators.

Ok, i know that the S4's are operated by back pressure. But since i dont have a S4, that doesnt help me.
How EXACTLY do the actuators work on a S5? Iv heard its operated by the air pump, which is directed by the ACV. So if you run a free flowing exaust on a S5, will the 5th and 6th ports still open? or is backpressure still an issue?
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 12:23 AM
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back pressure is not an issue on the s5 cars, so yes you can run a free flowing exhaust.

You have the basics of how the VDI and 5th/6th ports work correct.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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My 5th and 6th ports don't work. How do I fix them so they do work ?


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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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You say your car Is stock? Your existing problem Is probably due to the Auxilliary Ports being carbon locked, due to a lack of using them. Shame on you for not using them.

Only remedy Is to take out the complete Manifold and the sleeves. Soak them overnight with Castrol Super Clean first than give them a good scrubbing. This will ensure that your ports are restriction free.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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My 5th and 6th ports don't work. How do I fix them so they do work ?


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mine where stuck, but after dousing the area in penetrating oil and taping lightly on it with a wrench, it freed up.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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i just pulled the plungers up and WD40's them. worked great.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 03:46 PM
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Of course, the ports are designed to operate try, so whatever lube you use to free them up should be cleaned off with degreaser.
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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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i also WD40'd them and they open great
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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i have a s4 and when i try to push/pull them they dont move...so wd40 would do the trick? so i dont have to pull the whole manifol out to do this right?
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dvst8
i have a s4 and when i try to push/pull them they dont move...so wd40 would do the trick? so i dont have to pull the whole manifol out to do this right?
Only temporarily. The real problem exists with the sleeves and the carbon that encomposes them. Although a pain, It would be prefered to remove the Whole Intake and sleeves. Than you'll see what I am talking about. I believe s4's (who have your problem)goes deeper than the Acuators. The sleeves are usually the culprit IMO.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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i actually just took my sleeves right out. they are hanging from my rearview.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Whats the condition of them? All Black/Brown cruddy and oily?
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by xXTravistyXx
i actually just took my sleeves right out. they are hanging from my rearview.
Of course by doing so you killed your low end....
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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Sleeves rarely carbon up; it's the actuator rod(s) that gets gummed up in that copper bushing.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:45 PM
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the sleeves were pretty nasty but not too bad and yeah i realize i have no low end anymore but its worth it on the high end
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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There is very little gain high end by removing the sleeves. Actually, you may LOOSE high end power. Better solution is to install the Pineapple units.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Just took mine out and it was the actuators rods too. The sleeves were fine.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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which way do i face the sleeve on reinstall mine have been removed now fro about 3 months while i got a new intake manifold, now i am gonna reinstall them, also on reinstal should i put them in dry??? or with grease on them or what??
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 01:31 AM
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Install them with the openingd AWAY from the center line of the engine. So that way when you depress the Actuator Rod, the openings WILL line up to the Imaginary center line.

IMO, Install them back In dry. No WD-40 nothing. In the long run, that will attract the carbon and prevent full range of motion of thr rods.
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 08:12 AM
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...okay what is the truth on the sleeves??? I know you will lose low end (very important since tq has a DRAMATIC effect on acceleration), but it's said that you will gain power on the high end. How drastic of a loss is it down low and how good of a gain up high? Now I'm hearing that you could lose power up high...what's the truth (no bullshit please)?
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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To many misconceptions with "6 ports"

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...light=argument
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