T04Eneedy

hi everbody,i just turned 17 and i am looking for a 1990 turbo II.within the next 2 or 3 year i want to have modified the car to be a daily driven 400+hp road racing machine. is it posible to do that with this list.yes i know it has alot of trivial stuff in there but its just a list of everthing i could ever want done to the car.could someone please full me in if im missing something.

Intake
HKS super mega flow intake system $119.00
Engine
BLITZ super sound blow-off valve $202.10
BLITZ hard spring (for SSBOV) $13.76
BLITZ aluminum flange (for SSBOV) $27.50
AEM adjustable fuel pressure regulator $184.95
UNORTHODOX pulleys $213.50
Magnecor ignition wires (10mm) $64.95
Crane racing performance coil $69.95
T.M. Works power earth cable $118.00
NGK spark plug trailing plug (2) $16.40
NGK spark plug leading plug (2) $16.40
Transmission
Racing Beat sport/strip HD clutch disk $142.00
Racing Beat OEM throw out bearings $35.00
Racing Beat transmission seal kit $10.00
Exhaust
Racing Beat full exhaust system (downpipe inc.) $789.00
Racing Beat turbo outlet gasket $48.00
Suspension
Tokico 5 way adj. struts $165.00
Tokico 5 way adj. struts $129.00
HKS sport springs (1.5in drop) $235.00

Body Pieces
Gandador aero-mirrors $296.00
Cork Sport “Type II” front bumper $399.00
Knight Sports side step $466.00
Knight Sports headlight kit $754.00
Re Amemiya rear diffuser $745.20
D-Speed clear bumper lens (set) $115.00
D-Speed clear side marker (set) $65.00
Body Strengthening
Cusco lower arm bar type 1 $84.00
Cusco 3-point rear OS strut brace $237.00
Cusco 3-point front OS strut brace $127.00
Brakes
Goodridge Steel braided brake lines $110.23
AP 13” big front brake kit $2225.00
PowerStop Rear left rotor $83.05
PowerStop Rear right rotor $83.05
Hawk HPS pads $84.00
Wheels
Enkei RP01 17x8.0w/38 offset (2) $460.00
Enkei RP01 17x9.0w/42 offset (2) $460.00
Tires
Falken ZE-502 235/45ZR-17 $210.00
Falken ZE-502 255/45ZR-17 $224.00
NITTO NT-555R drag radials 275/40R-17 $296.00
Electronics
TurboXS dual-stage boost controller $239.00
BLITZ fully auto turbo timer $101.48
BLITZ FATT harness for FC3S $17.20
Racing Beat fuel cut controller $107.00
Cooling
Perma-cool sandwich style oil cooler $178.75
B&M super cooler transmission cooler (black) $63.81
B&M transmission cooler installation kit $6.96
Durale cooling system dual electric fan assembly $284.53
Durale cooling system dual electric fan bracket $47.52
Interior
INDOXONE gauge faces (white with red lettering) $95.24
MAZDASPEED Short Shift Kit $289.00
Autometer dual gauge pillar pod (52mm) $24.45
BLITZ DIN panel (two 1/4in electronics& 1-46mm gauge) $27.50
SPARCO lap 5 steering wheel $209.00
SPARCO racer pedals $35.00.
SPARCO Turino racing seats (2) $1,200.00
SPARCO cam lock 4 point harness $169.00
MAZDASPEED black/carbon fiber shift **** $90.97
MAZDASPEED black/carbon fiber handbrake **** $74.00

Gauges
Perma-cool Transmission oil temperature gauge $50.95
BLITZ white face boost gauge (52mm) $105.00
BLITZ white face E.G.T. gauge (52mm) $193.00
BLITZ white face fuel pressure gauge (46mm) $206.40
Intercooler
HKS Type S Front mount intercooler $1,084.00
Turbo
HKS T04E turbo kit $2,101.00
Misc.
SPARCO racing gloves $49.00
SPARCO hobby racing suit $69.00
GRAND TOTAL: $17,452.30

sickboy

****, you must've been bored. you've got a few off the wall things in that list, and quite a few good parts, but nowhere near all it takes to make 400+hp.

the main things you need to worry about with trying to make that kinda power are the turbo (a to4e at least), the intercooler, and the fuel system. you are almost going to HAVE to have a form of aftermarket fuel injection like a haltech or Wolf etc. other wise be prepared to use EVERY piggy back known to man. anyway, theres a LOT more to cover than just bolting parts on and getting 400hp, but you're only 17 and you've got a while to learn things so..........

BlackFC_NYC

nice list!

dont forget as the last post said, throw in a big turbo, front mount, haltech, tight clutch, rebuilt motor with nice big ports...and the fuel system.

then you'll be pushing out some power.

you listed some good things, most are for show, cut out half those visuals and go for the first couple things i mentioned.

thats power!

--Mike
87 turbo2

vaughnc

You pretty much covered it. To summarize (engine pieces anyway).

To get 400HP.

Larger turbo so you don't need 15PSI - (8-10PSI will be fine)
Larger Fuel Rails
Larger primary/secondary fuel injectors
Possible 3rd / 4th set of injectors for better tuning.
Engine management system
Peformance exhaust
Performance intake
Upgraded fuel pump
Possibly ported engine
Upgrade clutch (handle 450 lbs torque)
Better Apex seals (optional - longer engine life)
Possibly re-inforce the frame and engine mounts
Gagues (should be the 1st thing you add)
-- air/fuel, boost, exhaust temp, oil temp, collant temp

Transmission can handle 450+HP.

I'm sure I'm missing a few things. Maby a larger capacity fuel cell. @ 400HP - your fuel economy will suffer. We'll be watching the rx-8 engine (13B-revxxxx) to see the MPG @ 300HP / torque - that might be a possible upgrade.

Supermac

I had a very knowledgable friend tell me you could build up a stock turbo to a reliable 400+ hp for just under $6000. This would include your engine management, turbo, fmic, fuel upgrades, and the bare basics like that.

This is what im planning to do when i get my turbo car. of course you will spend more for visuals, but this is the basics.

Dyre

That looks great-
But like everyone else said, you've only missed one thing really-
Fuel Maganment- You're going to need something you can tune, like a haltech, wolf, etc... You might be able to get away with a piggy back system, but thats just asking for a blown motor-

If you want to be safe the best way to build the car would be this order

Fuel System Upgrades with Fuel managment
Exhuast/Intake Upgrades
Intercooler Upgrade
Turbo
Porter/Polished motor

You can throw the suspension parts in there any where you want...

Also, consider making your own 'intake'- All you need is a universal cone filter with the right size opening and a hose clamp-
Pull off the air box, shove the cone on the end of your AFM and you now have a quaility intake for $140 less than any of the kits-

vaughnc

Oh,

Would he need an oil cooler / radiator with that setup as well?

I figured if I went with a FMIC I'd better look at an upgraded radiator, oil coolers, etc...

T04Eneedy

**** yeah i was bored:p,it took me 3 days to complie that list i looked all over the internet for the best deal i could find(i need an other job).im kind of new to the rotory scene,but what in the hell is street porting.what kind of fuel upgrades would i need and where can i get them of dirt cheap.what else would i need to put out 400+hp cheaply and reliably?

oh yeah, all of the visual stuff would bee the very last thing,except for wheels.

last but definintly not least. does anyone know where i can get any of this stuff cheaper?

adamlewis

Street porting is where they take apart the engine ( this is why its usually cheaper to do it DURING a rebuild ) and make the intake ports bigger. Just gives you a bigger A/F mixture which = more power

Felix Wankel

A miracle.

adamlewis

LOLOLOLOL

Thats a good one

InitialD FC

iTrader: (1)

Not necessarily, I would'nt call my 400+hp setups miracles. Cuz I'm not a genie.

Chris Forsberg
88 Black FC
Late Shift Engineering
www.geocities.com/lateshifteng

Felix Wankel

Yeah how much are they?

InitialD FC

iTrader: (1)

I sell them for around $1800, the price changes for what you would want. SS manifold, T04, wastegate, downpipe, oil lines.... Each setup is made to order.

Felix Wankel

How bout a 60-1 with a P-trim? I'm going that route with my RX2.

InitialD FC

iTrader: (1)

I can get those for $550 brand new. Were you interested in anything else?

Felix Wankel

A lot of stuff actually, but I need to find a donor car before I start buying turbo stuff.

I'll keep ya in mind when the time comes though.

Flamin' NOS

I'll put it like this... say I've got $4000 to throw into an engine. I want a crate motor basically. Large street port, 2mm seals, haltech, large T04 hybrid with a big external wastegate , 550 primaries with 1600 secondaries, spearco fmic... you know where I'm going. I want 350+ hp at around 12-14 psi. Is there any way you can make that happen? What's a complete package for that amount of power go for? Thanks
steve

InitialD FC

iTrader: (1)

Of course it can be done, it would be slightly more than 4000, but when you think about it, its a little more than a turbo setup, you have fuel, engine management, and a ported motor too.

SS manifold.......400
T04...................550
Downpipe.........180
Wastegate........400
Oil lines.............100
1600s................150
Spearco.............600
Charge Pipes.....200
Haltech.............1200
Motor Rebuild.....400
Street Port.........200
Hurley Seals.......350

Did i miss anything???

Some of the parts are costly, but i can get good deals on Haltechs, any turbo you can think of, besides the T04 compressor on stock turbo. We do engine rebuilds with street porting for half of what KD Rotary charges. Injectors are cheap. Our manifolds are priced very well against SR Motorsports(900?), and i know Crispeed makes an excellant manifold for i think $550?

Felix Wankel

Hey are your manifold comparable to crispeeds? I really like the ones he makes and was thinking about running one.

Dyre

I think i need to remmeber you too!

Im looking to make as much power as i can with a TO4/Haltech setup too!

fcturbo2

How much can you get the HALTECH for???

XimbueX

If I were you, I'd buy an old accord and save your money for the fast car. If you're only 17 you will probably have a good wreck pretty soon, especially if you had a Turbo II.

Then again, there are exeptions, but it would be a much wiser decision to wait until you had a ton of money to throw into a car. Chances are if you were to get an RX7 you'd spend a good amount fixing stuff, money that you planned for upgrades. Unless of course you have money coming out of your *** and can afford high speed driving schools then maybe it would be doable. But chances of you finding a low enough mileage turboII and being the most mature 17 year old on the planet are pretty slim.

Good luck!

Dak

I have read somewhere that the stock oil cooler is really good and would be hard to find an aftermarket one that would beat.

fcturbo2

T04Eneedy should not be told that he cant start modifying RX7 because he is a youngen.
To me that is just wrong. Flame on but i hate it when people are just asking for opinions and they get critisized. The guy is just doing his homework trying to find which high performance parts will make his future car fast. Atleast he is not here telling everybody that RX7s are slow and unrealiable. So, lets just tell him the right way to make this cars fast. He might not get to 400HP but atleast he made his RX7 go ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM..