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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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4 lug to 5 lug

Hey guys whats goin on, Ive been searching for awhile on what is needed to complete a 5lug swap on my 88 FC. I remember something along the lines of hubs, rotors, calipers, and rear brake lines? Is that all that is needed or is there more to it. Does anyone know of a DIY, ive never really messed with brakes before so this is a first for me.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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front and rear hubs, rotors, and front brake calipers. then stuff like new bearings and pads.
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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you may also want to get a 5 lug spare tire, and you will need 4 more lug nuts
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Thanks guys for the replies. I was told I needed the master cylinder as well. Is that true?
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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no, master cylinder isnt needed since its the same ****, i had a full swap for sale a bit ago with 5 lug rims and tires but it sold and i even helped the kid istall it it was pretty straight forward just r&r....... basically swapped the front spindles and brake stuff for the 5 lug brake stuff, the rear was actually a complete rear subframe with lsd swap everything works fine and we didnt replace the master cylinder or brake lines we did swap the ebrake cables though since they did look slightly different dont think they are though i was prolly just buzzed
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Some folks will say you need the brake booster (it's a bit larger) and the proportioning valve, but other people have done the swap without those. If you can get your hands on them, they're not hard to swap.
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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alright sounds good, thanks everyone for the help. Hopefully I can do this when I get home, I just have to get them off my car then go to his house take em off and put my stuff on his car then take all his stuff back to my house
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 12:55 AM
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You dont need the brake lines for the rear but you will need the hard lines for the front you can use the single caliper lines but it gives a spongy feel everything is pretty straight foreward the rear is obvious you neex to bust the axle nuts off its 3 bolts after that i believe gotta work it a bit off and i used my e brake cable and no problems just the fact my e brake works good now lol just look at the hubs and it will tell you how you need to break it apart on your car
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by oakback
Some folks will say you need the brake booster (it's a bit larger) and the proportioning valve, but other people have done the swap without those. If you can get your hands on them, they're not hard to swap.
I have driven a car with both and there is definitely a difference, however I am not sure its enough to change over unless you happen to be taking out the booster or brake master cylinder for some reason.
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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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I would suggest replacing your old brake lines with ss brake lines.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nxtlevelmazda6
I would suggest replacing your old brake lines with ss brake lines.
ok,im wanting to do that but the search function hasnt helped me,do all the brake lines interchange? ive got 88gxl(5 lug)someone has ss lines he bought for his turbo,please tell me if these will fit?
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 03:47 AM
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they're the same brakes, so they'll work (on the t2 and the gxl)
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 08:21 AM
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thanx much, whats confusing is when you go brand by brand on the ss lines they actually have them listed as diff. part# some have "fits all 86-91" others have them listed as 86-88 and 89-91 and others even have them solid rotors vs. vented which shouldnt matter on the brake lines i woulda thought?
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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thanx much, whats confusing is when you go brand by brand on the ss lines they actually have them listed as diff. part# some have "fits all 86-91" others have them listed as 86-88 and 89-91 and others even have them solid rotors vs. vented which shouldnt matter on the brake lines i woulda thought?
You can also take your stock lines to a hydraulics shop (any town that has construction equipment has one), and they'll make some for you. Call around your area, you never know, it might be cheaper that way.
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